All of which will align with the origonal post.
Well, if you approach investigations on the basis of asserting a 14th century butter cross that you've never visited is much older underneath and has energy lines radiating from it and that a Saxon font that's been moved several times has a well under it I'm quite sure you'll find exactly what you predict you will.
Assertion = proof and the evidence will follow for certain, eh? As my grandfather (who saw Buffalo Bill's show) would have said, its all a lot of daftness.
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Posted 23 September 2006 - 21:46
Nigel,
Dont flatter yourself, I follow nobody, or no being.
If you could have stood on top of the butercross before they stuck that thing on top?
And at a precise time, then you may have heard the sounds, the sounds of light?
What do you consider they were depicting jousting?
Kevin
Dont flatter yourself, I follow nobody, or no being.
If you could have stood on top of the butercross before they stuck that thing on top?
And at a precise time, then you may have heard the sounds, the sounds of light?
What do you consider they were depicting jousting?
Kevin
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Posted 24 September 2006 - 19:02
-->QUOTE(kevin.b @ 23 September 2006, 21:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What do you consider they were depicting jousting?[/quote]
If you mean the wall paintings in the church, then daft though I am I'm content to be guided by the rather scholarly account given here -
[url="http://www.paintedchurch.org/jousclav.htm"]http://www.paintedchurch.org/jousclav.htm[/url]
[url="http://www.paintedchurch.org/joust2.htm"]http://www.paintedchurch.org/joust2.htm[/url]
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Posted 24 September 2006 - 21:20
Nigel, I had looked at the paintings carefully, as I said "the frieze is interesting"
Between the straight lines are spirals, indeed there are.
All the crosses such as the one at Claverley that I have visited (aprox 40) have been the same.
The bases are very early, the differing crosses and such stuck on top of them have varied , but.
All of them have been found to be sited precisely on a detectable system of straight lines, that cross in the very centre of the cross.
Where they are sited by a church, I can always detect a series of similer spots around the church, from these spots the radiating circles that are formed by the straight lines , will form the floor layout of the church, they will be superbly constructed in total accordance with these spots, these spots will have been identified by very clever dowsers, who are the equivalent of our modern day surveyors.
The whole system which is very variable , is allied to underground water, there will usually be four or five detectable points where the water is within the church, always one will have been at the alter, most are now capped off.
Commonly the church will be aligned to the four cardinal points, this is not to a compass North bearing, but to detectable lines.
the lines on these bearings east/west, and north/south, as well as other similer sets of lines at 90 degrees, but most commonly on these bearings, are found to be 34 inch apart and 55 inch apart, these then form a series of rectangles, which again the church will measure to precisely.
The lines either side of the centre line of the aisle, and others outwards will have spirals occuring in them, as I walk down the aisles one will spin to the left the other to the right, this gives a symbolic sort of picture the same as the fleur de lie, or flowers of the line, now used by the prince of wales after it was captured in battle from the French.
Or look similer to the frieze in your church, I find it often depicted around many ecclesiastical paintings and icons as the tree of life symbol, imo, thats exactly what it is.
The whole system is hardly describable in words, especially by me, but is well shown in symbols that I readily recognise.
I truly believe that the whole system is the basis that all religions are based upon, because of what is known in recent times, it is becoming evident what it actually is, but in past times this knowledge was not available so whole belief systems all around the globe have developed around it.
I enjoy jousting with you mr prove it, so it was amazement when I saw this depicted right where you live, it seems to me anyway as if it was meant to be?
I feel fortunate to have no belief system overiding anything that I find, and I dont dwell too much on where the lines are coming from?
I much prefer to stay on a dead straight pathway , where light upon light flows, where and whom it may guide me to I know not.
I find many things in many strange places that I recognise, the qur'an 24.35 (sura) is very illuminating, I will never be led astray.
All of course just my very humble opinion. And I hope others will realise that it is my way of explaining why there may be an alignment as origonally posted on this thread, basically a total matrix encompassing the planet which carries a form of light not visable to our retina, an omni present light, that is travelling so fast it passes through anything, and I mean anything, when they believe they create a vacuum, they are wrong.
Kevin
Sorry meant to put this link in.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/sura
read 24 carefully,please.
Kevin
Between the straight lines are spirals, indeed there are.
All the crosses such as the one at Claverley that I have visited (aprox 40) have been the same.
The bases are very early, the differing crosses and such stuck on top of them have varied , but.
All of them have been found to be sited precisely on a detectable system of straight lines, that cross in the very centre of the cross.
Where they are sited by a church, I can always detect a series of similer spots around the church, from these spots the radiating circles that are formed by the straight lines , will form the floor layout of the church, they will be superbly constructed in total accordance with these spots, these spots will have been identified by very clever dowsers, who are the equivalent of our modern day surveyors.
The whole system which is very variable , is allied to underground water, there will usually be four or five detectable points where the water is within the church, always one will have been at the alter, most are now capped off.
Commonly the church will be aligned to the four cardinal points, this is not to a compass North bearing, but to detectable lines.
the lines on these bearings east/west, and north/south, as well as other similer sets of lines at 90 degrees, but most commonly on these bearings, are found to be 34 inch apart and 55 inch apart, these then form a series of rectangles, which again the church will measure to precisely.
The lines either side of the centre line of the aisle, and others outwards will have spirals occuring in them, as I walk down the aisles one will spin to the left the other to the right, this gives a symbolic sort of picture the same as the fleur de lie, or flowers of the line, now used by the prince of wales after it was captured in battle from the French.
Or look similer to the frieze in your church, I find it often depicted around many ecclesiastical paintings and icons as the tree of life symbol, imo, thats exactly what it is.
The whole system is hardly describable in words, especially by me, but is well shown in symbols that I readily recognise.
I truly believe that the whole system is the basis that all religions are based upon, because of what is known in recent times, it is becoming evident what it actually is, but in past times this knowledge was not available so whole belief systems all around the globe have developed around it.
I enjoy jousting with you mr prove it, so it was amazement when I saw this depicted right where you live, it seems to me anyway as if it was meant to be?
I feel fortunate to have no belief system overiding anything that I find, and I dont dwell too much on where the lines are coming from?
I much prefer to stay on a dead straight pathway , where light upon light flows, where and whom it may guide me to I know not.
I find many things in many strange places that I recognise, the qur'an 24.35 (sura) is very illuminating, I will never be led astray.
All of course just my very humble opinion. And I hope others will realise that it is my way of explaining why there may be an alignment as origonally posted on this thread, basically a total matrix encompassing the planet which carries a form of light not visable to our retina, an omni present light, that is travelling so fast it passes through anything, and I mean anything, when they believe they create a vacuum, they are wrong.
Kevin
Sorry meant to put this link in.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/sura
read 24 carefully,please.
Kevin
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Posted 25 September 2006 - 21:10
"Commonly the church will be aligned to the four cardinal points, this is not to a compass North bearing, but to detectable lines.
the lines on these bearings east/west, and north/south, as well as other similer sets of lines at 90 degrees, but most commonly on these bearings, are found to be 34 inch apart and 55 inch apart, these then form a series of rectangles, which again the church will measure to precisely"
.... etc etc
Kevin, whilst everything you say about energy lines and prehistoric sites is without proof and therefore beyond disproof, since you've been applying it to church architecture you have changed the situation. The Saxons and Normans could write, yet they never ever wrote down a single word about these energy lines - ever, anywhere, any of them.
I don't know how you account for that but I'm not up for believing they wouldn't have left a vast record of it all throughout their literature. Sorry, but its just not credible and I don't believe it.
the lines on these bearings east/west, and north/south, as well as other similer sets of lines at 90 degrees, but most commonly on these bearings, are found to be 34 inch apart and 55 inch apart, these then form a series of rectangles, which again the church will measure to precisely"
.... etc etc
Kevin, whilst everything you say about energy lines and prehistoric sites is without proof and therefore beyond disproof, since you've been applying it to church architecture you have changed the situation. The Saxons and Normans could write, yet they never ever wrote down a single word about these energy lines - ever, anywhere, any of them.
I don't know how you account for that but I'm not up for believing they wouldn't have left a vast record of it all throughout their literature. Sorry, but its just not credible and I don't believe it.
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Posted 25 September 2006 - 21:55
Nigel,
How could they ever admit that their churchs were built to pagan knowledge?
In fear of God , they simply kept quiet.
Have you ever seen any plans for a Norman church, from the time of building, wouldnt you think there would be a vast record of it throughout their literature?
Such stunning architecture, all over europe?
There must be a theme, a blueprint?
Or did they just leave it up to the local yocals?
No, their chefs were masters, they had the best sourciers, I would have loved to have met them.
If you build to the natural earth forces, as they are, they will stand the test of time, as most do.
Simply brilliantly positioned and built, manufique.
The self same patterns they detected on the ground were lifted to the heavens, to show their God they worshipped.
I can take you to one in Falsis in Normandy that has two aisles, with a central alter, the aisles are 2 degrees out from each other, do you think they would do this by mistake?
Have you never wondered why some large churchs are miss aligned in this way?
It is simply to conform with the lines available, they give you precise measure.( dependant on underground water, where it flows , the plasma earths between the available lines, 70/80 % this will be along the east /west alignments )
Why do you think the Romanesque ones have a circuler end , centred on a spot in the middle of the alter, exactly at the radia of many stone circles you will know and love.
I have hardly posted a speck of what I actually know, and your pushing really helped, I was happy simply knowing, but you insisted on more, you will know more.
I have pondered long and hard about the church, but I was given the words by someone.
" Forgive them , for they could not know, time, as such as time is, was not right, it is now "
It is absolutely wonderfull and natural, no monsters or dragons, totally invisable and omni-present, so hard to put into words, so simple , but stunningly complex, beyond any published science, it creates everything, all the universe, all the galaxies, all the stars and planets and their moons, everything upon them, all to the same method and measure, all spiralling inwards along straight lines, You could hardly blame anyone for believing this was God, I dont even consider what it is, not for me to say, I simply follow its dead straight pathway, nothing will divert me, nothing.( when the straight pathways can be seen on google and flashearth, we can continue this, until then , bon nuit , mon ami )
Light upon light.
Kevin
How could they ever admit that their churchs were built to pagan knowledge?
In fear of God , they simply kept quiet.
Have you ever seen any plans for a Norman church, from the time of building, wouldnt you think there would be a vast record of it throughout their literature?
Such stunning architecture, all over europe?
There must be a theme, a blueprint?
Or did they just leave it up to the local yocals?
No, their chefs were masters, they had the best sourciers, I would have loved to have met them.
If you build to the natural earth forces, as they are, they will stand the test of time, as most do.
Simply brilliantly positioned and built, manufique.
The self same patterns they detected on the ground were lifted to the heavens, to show their God they worshipped.
I can take you to one in Falsis in Normandy that has two aisles, with a central alter, the aisles are 2 degrees out from each other, do you think they would do this by mistake?
Have you never wondered why some large churchs are miss aligned in this way?
It is simply to conform with the lines available, they give you precise measure.( dependant on underground water, where it flows , the plasma earths between the available lines, 70/80 % this will be along the east /west alignments )
Why do you think the Romanesque ones have a circuler end , centred on a spot in the middle of the alter, exactly at the radia of many stone circles you will know and love.
I have hardly posted a speck of what I actually know, and your pushing really helped, I was happy simply knowing, but you insisted on more, you will know more.
I have pondered long and hard about the church, but I was given the words by someone.
" Forgive them , for they could not know, time, as such as time is, was not right, it is now "
It is absolutely wonderfull and natural, no monsters or dragons, totally invisable and omni-present, so hard to put into words, so simple , but stunningly complex, beyond any published science, it creates everything, all the universe, all the galaxies, all the stars and planets and their moons, everything upon them, all to the same method and measure, all spiralling inwards along straight lines, You could hardly blame anyone for believing this was God, I dont even consider what it is, not for me to say, I simply follow its dead straight pathway, nothing will divert me, nothing.( when the straight pathways can be seen on google and flashearth, we can continue this, until then , bon nuit , mon ami )
Light upon light.
Kevin
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 10:04
"In fear of God , they simply kept quiet."
What, ALL of them, thousands and thousands of people all over Europe, over many many centuries....
Its an unbelievable explanation so far as I'm concerned so we'll just have to agree to differ I'm afraid Kevin.
What, ALL of them, thousands and thousands of people all over Europe, over many many centuries....
Its an unbelievable explanation so far as I'm concerned so we'll just have to agree to differ I'm afraid Kevin.
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 22:11
Nigel, OKEYDOKEY,
THE key to what?
A secret?
A secret is only a secret if you dont know it?
Its not a secret when you know it.
If you desire something to be kept secret, you will do anything to keep it a secret?
At some point , all secrets become known, ALL SECRETS BECOME KNOWN.
LIGHT UPON LIGHT
GOD GUIDES WHOM HE WILL TO HIS LIGHT.
IF YOU STAY ON A STRAIGHT PATH.
YOU CAN NEVER BE LED ASTRAY.
Qur'an 24
I love that as much as Okeydokey.
Calcium carbonate, YULE MARBLE, holds a secret? STONES hold a secret, strange how this is the stones forum?, with stones arranged in alignments, WHY, is it a secret?
Kevin
THE key to what?
A secret?
A secret is only a secret if you dont know it?
Its not a secret when you know it.
If you desire something to be kept secret, you will do anything to keep it a secret?
At some point , all secrets become known, ALL SECRETS BECOME KNOWN.
LIGHT UPON LIGHT
GOD GUIDES WHOM HE WILL TO HIS LIGHT.
IF YOU STAY ON A STRAIGHT PATH.
YOU CAN NEVER BE LED ASTRAY.
Qur'an 24
I love that as much as Okeydokey.
Calcium carbonate, YULE MARBLE, holds a secret? STONES hold a secret, strange how this is the stones forum?, with stones arranged in alignments, WHY, is it a secret?
Kevin
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 07:42
Hmmm, well we can all revert to speaking in tongues Kevin but the situation remains that the "lost or supressed knowledge" thesis just doesn't hang together if people could write it down.
There's little point in you banging on about church architecture being based on lost knowledge whilst leaving such a gaping hole in the foundations of your argument. People will notice.
There's little point in you banging on about church architecture being based on lost knowledge whilst leaving such a gaping hole in the foundations of your argument. People will notice.
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 18:56
-->QUOTE(kevin.b @ 27 September 2006, 20:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nigel,
Tempus omnia revelat.
Kevin
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Indeed. But if a racing tipster's only reassurance about his tip is "Tempus omnia revelat" it doesn't constitute grounds for believing him I'm afraid. You'll have to provide some solid grounds for your thesis Kevin, else you'll be wasting your time. I know you feel affronted by calls for proof but the customer's always right.
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