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Posted 14 April 2007 - 21:06



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On the subject of the 'Baron of Bush Barrow' : I've made a rough estimate of the scale of the carvings on Stone 53 using photos, scans, and an estimated height for that trilithon of 6.65 meters . The bar in the picture above would represent the metal length of his copper-bladed dagger, (the better of two surviving, and the one super-posed on the carving in previous posts and below) : 27 centimeters by the Wiltshire Heritage Museum . The match is reasonably close, as a rough estimate


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Posted 15 April 2007 - 06:26



Bush Barrow - Small Gold Parallelogram


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Continuing with the 'Baron', he was buried with a pair of 'lozenges', flat diamond-shapes made of gold

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Bush Barrow small lozenge
The small gold lozenge closely echoes the shape and design of the large lozenge. It may have embellished the copper dagger or its scabbard, possibly on the end of the wooden handle.

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As the reader may remember, the copper was his better dagger, (witness attention of gold), and that 'propositionally perhaps' immortalized on stone 53 . Though the purpose is well buried in time, its shape is 'mathematically available' . The interior angles, sixty degrees and one hundred twenty degrees, hold a 2:1 ratio to one-another . Such a ratio between the 'first' numbers - implying as well their sum, in the paired equilateral triangles of its halves - may have held significance ... The second is a larger, more complicated piece:


Bush Barrow - Large Gold Parallelogram

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 10:32

Anew,
          You are ever so close.
Copper is a brilliant conductor,
Gold is better, but only for the very few.
Electrum is stunning ( tip of pyramids?)
Nine Gods from Ra.
Nine lions guarding Apollo.
Nine muses.
And now little me ,saying nine parallel lines.
My best implements are made of carbon fibre.
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 14:01



Bush Barrow - Large Gold Parallelogram


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The larger of the two parallelograms is more complicated . Its interior angles, eighty and one-hundred degrees respectively, would much more likely have been understood by them in terms of fractional rotations, here four and five eighteenths ( It is curious that nines seem to abound in this particular 'lozenge', and that Kevin should bring them up immediately beforehand - remarkably intuitive ) Aside from the base-twice-nine main fractions, there are nine smaller diamonds at center and a band of nine counter-opposed triangles running along each side . At first glance, all but the end of these seem to be what we call 45:45:90 rights; as some are . Others are not . I'd like to return to this shape at some time in the future to see if the edge-band triangles were not scribed with a large compass, as they resemble arcs

But on the possibility they are not, and since I took the time to measure them: these seem built on base 144 fractions, (90 degrees becomes 36/144, or 6x6/12x12, something which may have impressed them) . They vary, in no obvious sequence, between having 33/144, 34/144, 35/144, and 36/144 inside main angles . This expedient is, I imagine, forced on any who want to curb polygons beyond the rectangle with triangles . The difference is that they seem to revel in it . Whether I'm experiencing the complexities of bushwhacking in a wrong direction, or just don't understand their symbolism is hard to say

One thing easy to say, in my mind, is that I haven't found much in the way of no. 7 - apparent patron digit of Stonehenge at the time of the Sarsen Construction

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 15:02

Anew,
         How would they have set a base direction 5000 years ago?
What is constant in its direction, but if you marked it out on the ground ( using vertical fixed poles ) and marked its movement between its rising and setting positions would give parallel lines , but scribe points along the min/max points each day that would give you a triangle?
The sun.
But DONT,DONT,DONT become,

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 23:27

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         How would they have set a base direction 5000 years ago?

It's thought that the 'Baron' was between 3500 & 4000 years ago, though the barrow was dug up before radiocarbon dating technology . Direction in a universal sense ? North seems good


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But DONT,DONT,DONT

I won't, won't, won't . Thanks, that resolved a very small and yet perturbing question: Learn a little every day


In other news: 144/9 is 16 . These guys seemed to want to pack this thing full of references to squared numbers -- which may or may not have something to do with the, (possibly contemporaneous), 'box' carvings said to be symbols of 'the protectress' - (if I read somewhere . They were mentioned at Stonehenge and in Brittany) ? Does anyone have a link to a picture

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 08:50




Bullshead revisited


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I wanted a reason to repost this image with a credit to Archaeoptics - deserved -

though it will not take a careful reader to see I've also added one for myself

Some will forgive me for this, and for the rest there's what might be a little more in the way of relevant analysis




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Posted 16 April 2007 - 23:20



An item one might consider, without assigning probability, in the context of the strong nineness of the larger or the 'Baron's' gold lozenges, is that 1/9 of a circle is 40 degrees . Mycenae was a little north of 37 degrees latitude, but the ancient city of Troy, on the important Dardanelles, (or Hellespont), passage between the Mediterranean and Black Seas was pretty directly on it, (39 degrees 57 minutes 27 seconds) . As both were active at the same time, and the strait's latitude was likely known - it could have been that 9 acquired added prestige, particularly for the traveler, "nines are a charm for safe passage", beyond its being the square of three ... Speaking hypothetically



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Posted 17 April 2007 - 11:43

Interestingly, the lozenge is sometimes found carved on some of the stones incorporated into stone cirlces. There's a really good one at Castlerig in Cumbria.

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 13:44

Whenever I look at your "bulls head", all I see is a fleur de lis.

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 13:57

View Postshiny, on 17 April 2007, 8:44, said:

Whenever I look at your "bulls head", all I see is a fleur de lis.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 14:57

Shiny,
        Go to the head of the class.
Down certain alignments  ( especially where megalithic and norman constructions are) I find fleur de lis, they eminate either side of the central line.
http://www.heraldica.../topics/fdl.htm

Three times three is nine= the trinity
all nines make the circle zero.

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 14:59

The fleur-de-lys (supposedly representing an Iris), was the symbol of the Frankish King Clovis I of France.

I think they look more like the stylised bulls-heads from the Minoan civilisation... than a fleur-de-lys.

But I support the accepted theory that they're a type of bronze flat axe...

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 10:55

View PostJimit, on 14 April 2007, 3:57, said:

A few points about the ditch; Professor Atkinson, when he excavated in the 1950s, discovered that it was not well defined "a string of sausages" and he thought that the bank was the more important feature. It is highly unlikely that it ever held water as it is on a slight slope, chalk is very porous and no clay sealing has ever been found.

Moot:  The string-of-sausages ditch style, (illustrated on page 106 of Mike Pitts' Hengeworld), might be explainable if they were farming, (the psilocybin), liberty-cap in there.  Consumption of which could have been seen as a means of communing with the dead, (or to have other spiritual properties).  I do not know if these grow in patches that approximate the dimension or breadth of the 'links'; but if so the Old Ones might have seen both practical and religious reason to transplant the whole organism to a central, and presumably protected, location. (Their temple)

I imagine a core sample through the Stonehenge ditch, (or a number of others), could be tested for a heightened presence of the spores.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 17:18

Anew,
        I feel like I have just been transported back a couple of years, where You been?
There is lots of the ridge and furrow still left around here, and it would be only natural for those living closely with the land to know where to plant what, and to increase the potential of those crops by altering the fields to provide slopes and cover , with drainage and such added in.
They would also naturally know the precise locations that specific organisms sought to grow about.
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