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[Maju]

arne, on 3 April 2008, 13:52, said:

BTW, the car park post holes at Stonehenge are contemporaneous with Gobecki.

No. Stonehenge oldest phases are from the end of the 4th milennium BCE, while Gobelki Tepe's temples are from the 8th milennium BCE: 4,000 years separates them.

[arne]

Maju, on 3 April 2008, 18:04, said:

arne, on 3 April 2008, 13:52, said:

BTW, the car park post holes at Stonehenge are contemporaneous with Gobecki.

No. Stonehenge oldest phases are from the end of the 4th milennium BCE, while Gobelki Tepe's temples are from the 8th milennium BCE: 4,000 years separates them.

Stonehenge car park.


"Yet surprisingly the earliest evidence for any activity in the area relates to a row of post-holes aligned in an East-West direction, which were discovered by excavations in 1966 and 1988, in what is now the Stonehenge car park. Dated by a scientific team put together by English Heritage, the spread of dates for these postholes is truly staggering.1   The dates are statistically arranged into two groups, 8500-7650 cal BC, and 7500-6700 cal BC.2 As to whether this row of posts was the full extent of this early work we are unlikely ever to know, for if something had been erected at Stonehenge in the Mesolithic era around 8,000 to 10,000 years ago, subsequent works would have most likely eradicated all traces. We are therefore left with only an echo of this early work that has blended into the archaic time of glacial retreat."

http://www.gizagrid....stonehenge.html

[Pete G]

you are right on the dates for the Stonehenge post holes arne.
The Stonehenge Riverside Project will be looking for more of these posts over this summers digging season.
PeteG

[arne]

Pete G, on 3 April 2008, 23:23, said:

you are right on the dates for the Stonehenge post holes arne.
The Stonehenge Riverside Project will be looking for more of these posts over this summers digging season.
PeteG

      Thanks Pete:)

       The Gobekli site shows us that there was much going on much earlier than we had thought. I'm a sculptor and I know that the skill needed to shape those rock surfaces resulted from incremental knowledge.  Some guy did not just show up and start making the straight lines and figures from scratch. There was a history of stone work that he relied on. Somebody taught him how to do it.

       The amazing thing is that it was buried intentionally . This preserved it for us as though it were almost new.

       The object carved on one stone appears to be a pick.

[Maju]

arne, on 3 April 2008, 23:42, said:

Maju, on 3 April 2008, 18:04, said:

arne, on 3 April 2008, 13:52, said:

BTW, the car park post holes at Stonehenge are contemporaneous with Gobecki.

No. Stonehenge oldest phases are from the end of the 4th milennium BCE, while Gobelki Tepe's temples are from the 8th milennium BCE: 4,000 years separates them.

Stonehenge car park.


"Yet surprisingly the earliest evidence for any activity in the area relates to a row of post-holes aligned in an East-West direction, which were discovered by excavations in 1966 and 1988, in what is now the Stonehenge car park. Dated by a scientific team put together by English Heritage, the spread of dates for these postholes is truly staggering.1   The dates are statistically arranged into two groups, 8500-7650 cal BC, and 7500-6700 cal BC.2 As to whether this row of posts was the full extent of this early work we are unlikely ever to know, for if something had been erected at Stonehenge in the Mesolithic era around 8,000 to 10,000 years ago, subsequent works would have most likely eradicated all traces. We are therefore left with only an echo of this early work that has blended into the archaic time of glacial retreat."

http://www.gizagrid....stonehenge.html

Ok, ok. They would not seem to relate to Stonehenge monument as such, except for the coincidence of the site. Wonder what correlation can have 4 Epipaleolithic postholes with Gobelki Tepe anyhow.

[Maju]

You may find interesting this entry at ArcaheoBlog, the astronomical and biblical correlations seem kind of specultaive to me but the videos are nice.

[Maju]

Thinking again, Göbelki Tepe should be Neolithic. Check this article on earliest Neolithic dates in West Asia (as I mention in the comments section, older datations also suggested such or even older age).