40 replies to this topic

[davidjones]

O.K. now how about this for a theory . instead of looking from Men An Tol and up what about if you are on a pilgramage to a burial site. you walk through the gap and men scryfa points to an important religious burial place as I was informed that the 'o' shaped stone was at 90 degrees to its present position once upon a time and these stones were associated with burial entrances . As no remains or treasure was found when they dug up men scryfa a few hundred years ago perhaps it was a pointer to the otherwise almost hidden grave men an tol and possibley even reused and identified by the inscription on the north face of men scryfa, and on the right side if introducing you to something ahead? Image shown is centre of gate to field .I don't have much joy with multiple uploads so will send the other images as further replies

Attached Files

•  DSC_0526.jpg   150.65K   6 downloads

[davidjones]

o.k. these next two images show the remarkable cross referencing of the gate stones. left hand gate stone with men scryfa then carn

Attached Files

•  DSC_0531.jpg   90.1K   5 downloads

[davidjones]

right hand gate stone with men scryfa then carn
not such a positive shot but if I were to move to the left the allignment is as good to the opposing hill top its just my other photo does not show men scryfa as well

Attached Files

•  DSC_0530.jpg   96.49K   7 downloads

[davidjones]

and one last shot showing this cantankerous old git contemplting the lay of the land not having seen google earth or even a local map - better than the shot of me crawling through and hoping my bad back would get better!

Attached Files

•  DSC_0525.jpg   315.26K   6 downloads

[tiompan]

davidjones, on 30 December 2008, 1:46, said:

O.K. now how about this for a theory . instead of looking from Men An Tol and up what about if you are on a pilgramage to a burial site. you walk through the gap and men scryfa points to an important religious burial place as I was informed that the 'o' shaped stone was at 90 degrees to its present position once upon a time and these stones were associated with burial entrances . As no remains or treasure was found when they dug up men scryfa a few hundred years ago perhaps it was a pointer to the otherwise almost hidden grave men an tol and possibley even reused and identified by the inscription on the north face of men scryfa, and on the right side if introducing you to something ahead? Image shown is centre of gate to field .I don't have much joy with multiple uploads so will send the other images as further replies

        Both sites may well have burial associations . It does look like the Men Scryfra stone was recumbent when the digging was done , there could have been a cremation deposit (not the right kind of treasure for the diggers ) which would have easily been overlooked or possibly it was dug in the wrong place . If anything the later inscription is suggestive of a burial .
Whatever the configuration or  monument type , there may well be burial deposits around Men an Tol , I don't believe the area has been excavated other than looking for stone sockets , but may be wrong . As for what may have gone on in relation to the two monuments , it's open day , your guess is as good as the phenomenologists , probably better .
Is there a record of the number of people getting a bad  back  due to crawling through Men an Tol ? Next stop Stonehenge , for the cure .

George

[davidjones]

the inscription 'RIALOBRANI CUNOVALI FILI' which in Cornish means 'Royal Raven son of the Glorious Prince'
This is taken as a general comment made by contributors to the megalithic forum relating to men scryfa markings

[davidjones]

Well 4 days before the Equinox is due again and I have managed to persuade my dear wife to gamble over the hills of cornwall at crack of dawn or should I say 40mins before crack of dawn . I hope to gather times further images and alignments . Here's hoping the weather is with us . I shall add to the debate if all goes well . regards to all -

[davidjones]

this allignment is true north south Holed stone men scryfa and carn galver the yellow flag is where men scryfa is the white pole the right hand gate stone . The photo taken from the holed stone

Attached Files

•  north_south_allignment.jpg   32.03K   7 downloads

[davidjones]

Here is a close up view of how men scryfa alligns with carn Galver note the squared out notch the base of which lays on the horizon when viewed from the holed stone . Perhaps even from the hole itself if the brambles and lane wall were removed and the hole rotated back to its original position

Attached Files

•  men_scryfa.jpg   31.9K   5 downloads

[davidjones]

O.k. now back to chun castle . When I took a more accurate shot of the allignments of the gate stones with the pointer stone using a ladder inside the castle I found a couple of stones in the way in fact a broken stone . It was pointed and the point had broken away at a quartz band half way up and diagonally across the stone. Stones similar to this have been found at Backhill of Drachlaw stone circle in Aberdeenshire and Nine maidens barrow. I would like to know if anyone else out there has knowledge of quartz banded stones elsewhere. The sun  headed towards the horizon 4 days before the equinox and like the last couple of attempts to get the money shot disapeared in sea fog.

Attached Files

•  chun_base_pointer.jpg   212.17K   2 downloads

[davidjones]

photo taken from the quartz stone about 10  feet inside the castle walls

Attached Files

•  horizon_alligned.jpg   41.78K   7 downloads

[davidjones]

This is the view south of the quartz stone, showing other stones in a slow arc within chun castle and a close up of the broken quartz pointer stone

Attached Files

•  chun castle pointer stone.jpg   50.49K   3 downloads
•  chuncastle stones.jpg   53.81K   1 downloads

[davidjones]

Here is an interesting aside . I thought I would look at the sun position at Avebury ring at the equilux . The two main centre stones seem quite random but as the sun sets the two stones shadows converge with parralel sides and an ever diminishing v until the gap just dissappears at sunset and although not shown I think finally sets on a large stone nearby seen to the right of the first shot( I was running back and for between both circles).Note the very strong shape beginning to appear .I think for one half of the year the two shadows would not meet and would overlap the other half . I will observe

Attached Files

•  avebury at equilux.jpg   35.34K   5 downloads
•  avebury shadows.jpg   31.15K   5 downloads
•  avebury ring.jpg   46.77K   3 downloads

[davidjones]

I have recently received some lovely images of a winter solstice image as seen from chun quoit as the sun sets over carn Kenidjack . As allignments go a very positive image i'm sure you will agree  winter_solstice_chun_quoit1.jpg   201.09K   8 downloads  cairn_kenidjack1.jpg   193.99K   6 downloads

[davidjones]

davidjones, on 25 December 2008 - 23:16, said:

pendeen carving

Answer found in St Just  St Just carving.jpg   174.01K   3 downloads Church an unfinished celtic knotwork pattern this was edited out of original debate