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[kevin.b]

Anew,
     King of triangles,
Quadrature is such, but so are other days as the moon moves side on, and it comes closest to Earth.
So draw out the circuler resonating fields of the moon, of the earth and of the sun, the big mover is the moon.
The field fronts of the globes are ever expanding circles that cross each other.
The resultant curves of geometric form create different pathways, that a very fluid flowing and invisable force follows and always follows the route of least resistance.

What is created by this moving geometry is alternative spirals that spiral into the centre point and then spiral out from the same point 14 days later.
The flows thus implode into the earth as the moon is near west quadrature and explode back out at east quadrature.

The soul or whatever You want to call it thus is seen to go into the Earth, and return 14 days later.
By totally insulating the point of spiral implosion and explosion it ensures pure concentration with out dispertion.
The outlet route will be the small circuler opening central where the insulated flow is guided to exit.
Stood along that line will be the breeding woman, 28 days after fertilisation.
Thats when We come back, imho.
Always a boost when You return.
Kevin

[Anew]

Thanks, Kevin, good to hear from you.

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resonating fields

A belief in, (and/or perception of), this may have played a role in the wave-like forms and cyclically repeated motifs of many carvings, (including zig-zags) ~ particularly, in my opinion, if altered states were involved .

Here it's worth considering that the iconic Serpent of so many belief systems may have been held to be charmed, (or cursed), not simply for its phallic semblance, its potency in hunting and its danger ; but also for its wave-form mode of travel .

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So draw out the circuler resonating fields of the moon, of the earth and of the sun, the big mover is the moon.
The field fronts of the globes are ever expanding circles that cross each other.
The resultant curves of geometric form create different pathways, that a very fluid flowing and invisable force follows and always follows the route of least resistance.
What is created by this moving geometry is alternative spirals that spiral into the centre point and then spiral out from the same point 14 days later.
The flows thus implode into the earth as the moon is near west quadrature and explode back out at east quadrature.

I believe that they felt the Earth had cycles, (indeed it does in tides, days, and seasons) . The inclusion of a lunar cycle in the land is something to think about : given the attention they appear to have given lunar ratios ~ such as the comparative inner and outer diameters of the Main Ring at Stonehenge, and possibly the elliptical ratios of some circles . I think the moon may have applied more to beliefs in the dead and their reincarnation, while the sun would have been the focus of beliefs regarding the living . But it also seems reasonable that the land itself, as part living and part dead, may have been held to 'breathe' with the lunar cycle .

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By totally insulating the point of spiral implosion and explosion it ensures pure concentration with out dispertion.
The outlet route will be the small circuler opening central where the insulated flow is guided to exit.

Their beliefs and charms appear to have involved directions . The idea of concentration vs. dispersal may also have been applied . Cremation disperses the flesh, and presumably any charms associated with it, (as would excarnation) . But to then take the cremains and place them in a ring, (or to take bones and place them in a longbarrow), implies that they wanted some aspect of the dead, (or some of the dead), to remain, into perpetuity, concentrated .

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Stood along that line will be the breeding woman, 28 days after fertilisation.
Thats when We come back, imho.

Beyond the practice of couples hoping for a child making it in a charmed location ; women may have had charms to apply, or have visited magical spots, when or before their period was due, (perhaps at that time when pms was expected), hoping that the spirit of one from the tribe's past would enter their womb .







In the last post i had written :

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There is a time of the month when a slightly gibbous setting moon (to me) resembles a mushroom cap, (though neither the liberty cap nor the fly agaric), at about the fifth day from the full, (the sixth if one counts the full) .

That may need qualification . The descending moon does bear some resemblance to a ) Fly Agaric ( button . These can show a similar roundness, slight tipping, and mix of 'highlands' and 'seas' . But the pattern of the Agaric's disintegrating veil, (where it has not been washed away by rain), is both more regular and more interrupted than the lunar highlands, (and the overall coloring during this phase is always different, though the rising and setting full moon can turn red) . If the similarities were considered above the differences, and if this increased the charm believed of this Toadstool, it may have become entrained with their mortuary and communing-with-the-dead customs ; (here i also speculate the often breast-like Liberty Cap could have been brought into their world-of-the-living ceremonies ~ such as marriage) . If they thought about the Fly Agaric that way, they might have felt guided to emulate the veil by leaving 'bumps' on otherwise dressed stones, or by smoothing some areas while leaving others on the same face rough ; which would de-emphasize a link to cupmarks in this context .

There is another aspect of the moon which i think they may have noticed and paid attention to : that relative to the way it rises, it descends inverted . This, together with the moon's tidal link to water, (in which things are reflected upside down), may have contributed to the inversions sometimes associated with their mortuary practice . Here it's interesting to note that ) Seahenge (, (a possible excarnation platform), was surrounded by 55, (one of these forked), split oak trunks . This, if one counts the forked trunk more heavily, is teasingly close to the sum of the synodic and sidereal months .

[kevin.b]

Anew,
We are discussing peoples who inhabited a very natural world as far as background radiations were concerned, thus without the "noise" of today they may well have been totally atuned to the cyclic and spiral based rythmns of universe that can be experienced here on the surface of this planet.
Those self same natural background sounds  may also rise and fall on far larger cycles .
It may be that We are entering a cyclic time where these sounds are becoming louder as such, and if you think this out in spiral fashion then it makes sense as You near the spiral implosion zone that all the field lines involved will compress their content and thus raise the sounds?

http://library.think...353/spiral.html
Kevin

[Anew]

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a very natural world [...] without the "noise" of today

Quite . And it is the image of such a world, in part and i think, that brings so many people to study the circles .

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as You near the spiral implosion zone that all the field lines involved will compress their content and thus raise the sounds?

I find it reasonable to imagine that the experience of frisson, or 'head-rush', was part of the magic perceived . That, in a manner similar to the way, (as i recall reading it), Russian bells, (and i would believe also the pipes), may create overtones within the mind of a listener which do not exist in the air, some of the effects of their religion, and the practice of it, had been internal ~ and may have entered the realm of what would now be called psychosis or the hallucinatory, (in a kinder parlance : vision-quest), without modern attachments of 'mental illness', 'drug abuse' and/or 'mass hysteria' to the subject . However, since such experiences can often be individualistic, the transcendental forms and measures perceived by one person may differ from those of another .

[kevin.b]

Anew,
       The present science base is totally reliant on machines , this in part is due to the reluctance to accept what a human being will report as found.
The times we are discussing had no machines, and those who for whatever reason/s were deemed as the shaman or preists will have been listened to , and will have passed on their knowledge and methods to the younger ones in time.
But the machines are not ALIVE, they are not connected to what imho is alive, and that is universe.

Every concievable machine and computer has been enliste4d to try and puzzle out what these sites were about.
I trust to those who are alive and willing to report what they find.
Kevin

[Anew]

Excellent :

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connected to what imho is alive, and that is universe.

  

To me, the Universe is math . And as i see in mathematics the semblance of life, and in the universe its potential and expression ; i believe that life is intrinsic to these .

I also am inclined to believe that there are fields within the universe which only a living thing can read ; involving the sixth sense and the choice of actions within an ever-divergent reality .

However, humans will make very idiosyncratic receptors . Therefore, what i pay attention to is not the specific details of someone's paranormal experience, but its themes, that they had it, and in what sense they believe it .

As the Universe also expresses itself materially, we make much use of our five material senses, and well-made machines can interact with it predictably on this level ; i feel science has much to offer our understanding as well .

[kevin.b]

Anew,
     I agree totally about the maths, but who's math?
I have tried very very hard to stick to the math i detect, and it is almost indescrible, hence We have constantly tried to invent our own.
The math same as music has been tampered with, and the tuning of music holds the biggest clue imho, they have tried to alter, no not tried , they have altered the very basis of tuning so that what You hear is not of universe, solfeggio is that.
The math involved is similer, it has a sequencing, not a reguler anything.
A year now may have been far different in past times but of similer sequencing, a scale of constant alteration where our life spans are too short to recognise the scalar effects.
The main problem is relying on light to litterally try and see the universe, and the light is blinding ourselves to far larger flows of the force that creates light.
I may only find out if I am correct about the eternal nature of our none physical selves when i pop my clogs, but I am as sure as sure can be that We are eternal , and the Egyptians were well advanced in the understing of Ka, Kha and Ba.

I consider that it is the cyclic sequencing that is not been recognised in the geometry, and if You take Your triangle as a base then imagine that triangle getting ever larger and ever smaller, the result is layers of geometries that overlap and create litterally layers of space that flows enticed onto them spin in concentration of that spin, it's why the clouds have flat base, and atomic explosions show it better still.


That geometry creates spiral pathways  and silbury hill and the pyramids will have been built to reach the vortex points that are way up in the atmosphere normally, hills and valleys display this where the flows are attracted up and down the gradients that are maths based, hence water is often found springing out at the top or side of a hill, it is acting under the attraction of the flows.

The megaliths are sited upon the geometry of phase conjugate time reversed optical lasers, and science has helped me to comprehend that, they are of universe, and in ever expanding scales the sun and moon and other planets are all interfering with each others expanding field lines to create what we call time and the seasons etc.
The megaliths are to see by the light, and to see when there is no light, i don't need the light, i can detect the sidereal flows that are from hercules, the sun is in the path of that, it's a resistor in the path of that galatic flow, which will be in an even bigger scale flow, add infirnitum.
The trick will be finding the correct math, trust me, I am a dowser that really, but really can, it's fabulous.
Kevin

[tiompan]

kevin.b, on 6 October 2010 - 17:02, said:

Anew,
    
The math same as music has been tampered with, and the tuning of music holds the biggest clue imho, they have tried to alter, no not tried , they have altered the very basis of tuning so that what You hear is not of universe, solfeggio is that.

Kevin

  Music isn't tuned , instruments are . The majority of instruments with the exception of most keyboards and including the human voice don't necessarily keep to the values of the well tempered and are perfectly capable of playing in just intonation simply by "bending the notes to suit , in the case of the voice no bending is required you jut pitch the pitches and intervals you feel are appropriate .
George

[kevin.b]

Tiompan,
             The music is what the instruments make, thus the instruments been tuned differently results in the music been produced differently.
Chicken and egg senario?
The resultant frequencies experienced are not solfeggio based or sequenced.
http://www.redicecre.../solfeggio.html
3.6.9.
Thirds.
The megaliths were not built recently, and imho will have been atuned to universe.
kevin

[tiompan]

kevin.b, on 6 October 2010 - 18:33, said:

Tiompan,
             The music is what the instruments make, thus the instruments been tuned differently results in the music been produced differently.
Chicken and egg senario?
The resultant frequencies experienced are not solfeggio based or sequenced.
http://www.redicecre.../solfeggio.html
3.6.9.
Thirds.
The megaliths were not built recently, and imho will have been atuned to universe.
kevin

No ,the instruments produce sound and the it's the instrumentalists who produce the music .Whether the instruments are blown or plucked the instrumentalist can overcome the restrictions of the instrument by various techniques and can produce any pitch or interval within the range of the instrument. Basically instrumentalists can play in just intonation on any instrument other than a well tempered keyboard .It's only solo piano music that is so restricted .
Vocalists and most musicians that you like are probably going from one type of temperament to another and others in between in any given performance , pitcjh and rhythm in the real world is not nearly as strict as you seem to be thinking . Only midi files never vary from what they get told , rea musicuins paly about with pitch and rhythm that's part of the appeal of muisc it's not a midi file ,it's got life and breathes .
George

[kevin.b]

Tiompan,
       We will end up going around in circles again if not carefull.
We are resonating field based entities, and thus We interact with the resonating fields We are subjected to.
By exposing ourselves to frequencies fractionally different to how universe is naturally supplying, We are creating a harmfull envioronment about ourselves, and causing stress to our basic resonating system.
On the other hand if We surround ourselves with the universes natural frequencies then all our atoms are energised to respond and react energetically to this, the megaliths were collecting and upgrading the very weak inputs of such natural as one of their design reasons, imho.
Kevin

[tiompan]

kevin.b, on 6 October 2010 - 20:53, said:

Tiompan,
       We will end up going around in circles again if not carefull.
We are resonating field based entities, and thus We interact with the resonating fields We are subjected to.
By exposing ourselves to frequencies fractionally different to how universe is naturally supplying, We are creating a harmfull envioronment about ourselves, and causing stress to our basic resonating system.
On the other hand if We surround ourselves with the universes natural frequencies then all our atoms are energised to respond and react energetically to this, the megaliths were collecting and upgrading the very weak inputs of such natural as one of their design reasons, imho.
Kevin

Maybe so ,there is no doubt that just intonation is preferable to to a well tempered scale but don't think everything you hear is well tempered ,a lot of it isn't , musicians make choices all time about how they will pitch and often that choice coincides with just intonation ,it is much more common than you think .

George

[kevin.b]

Anew,
     I think You may see the signifigance of these reports of a burial mound/s now dug out for sand.
The signifigance of one central urn been directly over the former one cannot be over emphasised imo.
The marking on the lids is very revealing as i find NINE lines running parallel, the cente point will stil be there rising vertical to infinity.
the orientations to the 45 degrees of north imo will show where the main flow is travelling along, there must be both male and female flows there as there is later oriention to 45 degrees before north, ninty degrees to the first ones.
The flows rate will change in time.
http://newton-le-wil...d=556&Ityemid=1
Kevin

[Anew]

kevin.b, on 14 October 2010 - 09:13, said:

Anew,
     I think You may see the signifigance of these reports of a burial mound/s now dug out for sand.
The signifigance of one central urn been directly over the former one cannot be over emphasised imo.
The marking on the lids is very revealing as i find NINE lines running parallel, the cente point will stil be there rising vertical to infinity.
the orientations to the 45 degrees of north imo will show where the main flow is travelling along, there must be both male and female flows there as there is later oriention to 45 degrees before north, ninty degrees to the first ones.
The flows rate will change in time.
http://newton-le-wil...d=556&Ityemid=1
Kevin

Thanks, Kevin

My thoughts :

The burnt cobbles and charcoal in the shallow pit, (from a fire that had been elsewhere), indicate they may have been cooking something ~ possibly parboiling Amanita Muscaria, (Fly Agaric), to detoxify it before eating ; (again possibly), as part of funerary or communing-with-the-dead ceremonies .

The NE - SW alignment of the (later) pit in the first mound may be interpreted in a morturary context, as could the (somewhat) inverse-ring-cairn-like overall structure of the site .

The website you link to notes the similarity between the 'Shaman's Sanctuary' there and Woodhenge . This may continue the funerary context ~ depending on the purpose they held for these structures, and whether the two were related .

Another website, (link), has a small image of a 1610 map of the Southworth Hall area . At two points, (particularly that one to the south), near the parish, a stream or river bends from running roughly east-west to south ~ something i conjecture may have been significant, as mentioned in the Psychedelic Mushrooms thread : (link) . I do not know the location of the mound but imagine it may have been near one of them .

[kevin.b]

Anew,
         The river running South is indeed sacred, but the river running north is even more.
The most powerfull river in Europe and fastest flowing is the Foyle in Ireland, and it runs North, and it is the best salmon river in Europe, they are wise?
they use the power flowing UPSTREAM to travel back to a finite point, gravel will be there, as at Thornborough henges.
Have You looked at galvanising?
They orientate carefully the sheets they galvanise and mark them so when You fix them that You orientate them accordingly, or else rapid rusting takes place.
Back to the basic?
Kevin