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[Spacelancer]

Hi everyone, could someone show me the photo of the so-called Göbekli Tepe's sphinx? I tried very hard but couldnt get this picture. Thank you.

[Pete G]

 Spacelancer, on 21 January 2010 - 17:35, said:

Hi everyone, could someone show me the photo of the so-called Göbekli Tepe's sphinx? I tried very hard but couldnt get this picture. Thank you.

are you refering to the Leonine pillar?
My friend Andy Collins has been there and written about it here,
http://www.andrewcol...e_interview.htm
Pete

[Spacelancer]

 Pete G, on 21 January 2010 - 20:19, said:

 Spacelancer, on 21 January 2010 - 17:35, said:

Hi everyone, could someone show me the photo of the so-called Göbekli Tepe's sphinx? I tried very hard but couldnt get this picture. Thank you.

are you refering to the Leonine pillar?
My friend Andy Collins has been there and written about it here,
http://www.andrewcol...e_interview.htm
Pete

Not quite so, I've seen this picture scores of times, and I actually do not see there any anthropomorphical properties. I mean something what has been referred to by some scholars, for instance:

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Vecihi Ozkaya, the director of a dig at Kortiktepe, 120 miles east of Urfa, doubts the thousands of stone pots he has found since 2001 in hundreds of 11,500-year-old graves quite qualify as that. But his excitement fills his austere office at Dicle University in Diyarbakir.

"Look at this", he said, pointing at a photo of an exquisitely carved sculpture showing an animal, half-human, half-lion. "It's a sphinx, thousands of years before Egypt. South-eastern Turkey, northern Syria - this region saw the wedding night of our civilisation."

http://www.guardian....haeology.turkey

[Pete G]

ah you mean Kortik tepe not Göbekli Tepe.
I'll ask around for you,
Pete

[Spacelancer]

Thanks a lot, I'd be very greatful.

May be you're right, though I cant say for sure from these words that he is not talking about Göbekli Tepe.

[Pete G]

Andy has written to the director of the Göbekli Tepe digs for you asking about the sphinx stone.
I will let you know his reply when he gets it,
Pete

[harry sivertsen]

Hi Pete

Have any human remains been discovered at the site?  My interest here is the source of the people involved. Those at Mehrgarh [now Pakistan] came from Sundaland, identified via dental morphology and the site there dates to 7000BC, some reports state even earlier by a few hundred years. Here we have accurate measurements [see MOTG chapters 15 and 17] Hence second query, are there any accurate survey copies available for comparison?

Note below about the region from Wiki. There just may be some connection here.

Cheers

Harry

Mehrgarh is now seen as a precursor to the Indus Valley Civilization. "Discoveries at Mehrgarh changed the entire concept of the Indus civilization," according to Ahmad Hasan Dani, professor emeritus of archaeology at Quaid-e-Azam University, Islamabad, "There we have the whole sequence, right from the beginning of settled village life."[4] According to Catherine Jarrige of the Centre for Archaeological Research Indus Balochistan, Musée Guimet, Paris
…the Kachi plain and in the Bolan basin (are) situated at the Bolan peak pass, one of the main routes connecting southern Afghanistan, eastern Iran, the Balochistan hills and the Indus valley. This area of rolling hills is thus located on the western edge of the Indus valley, where, around 2500 BCE, a large urban civilization emerged at the same time as those of Mesopotamia and the ancient Egyptian empire. For the first time in the Indian subcontinent, a continuous sequence of dwelling-sites has been established from 7000 BCE to 500 BCE, (as a result of the) explorations in Pirak from 1968 to 1974; in Mehrgarh from 1975 to 1985; and of Nausharo from 1985 to 1996.[5]
The chalcolithic people of Mehrgarh also had contacts with contemporaneous cultures in northern Afghanistan, northeastern Iran and southern central Asia.[6]

[tiompan]

There have been a few finds of human bone at Gobleki Tepe and those have been fragmentary . Lots of animal boes .It is very early days ,if it turns out anything like Catal Hoyuk then there may many levels to deal with and the possibility of burials under the the floors of these levels .I think they are just at the top level floor now .

George

[harry sivertsen]

Hi George

Thanks for that.  This appears to be a very interesting site to keep an eye on.

Harry

[love4modeltrains]

This cn help you..
http://www.redicecre...cle.php?id=3487

[Spacelancer]

 love4modeltrains, on 15 February 2010 - 17:18, said:

This cn help you..
http://www.redicecre...cle.php?id=3487

Hi, thank you, already seen.

[tiompan]

 Spacelancer, on 21 January 2010 - 17:35, said:

Hi everyone, could someone show me the photo of the so-called Göbekli Tepe's sphinx? I tried very hard but couldnt get this picture. Thank you.

Seems odd . Maybe it was found in the past 6 years , but I doubt there is a sphinx at Gobleki Tepe . Human bodies with animal heads are common enough in prehistoric art but animal bodies with human heads are ,afaik unknown from that  period. Klaus Schmidt has had little enough translated but he did mention this in a paper from 2004.  

George

[Spacelancer]

 tiompan, on 11 March 2010 - 17:23, said:

 Spacelancer, on 21 January 2010 - 17:35, said:

Hi everyone, could someone show me the photo of the so-called Göbekli Tepe's sphinx? I tried very hard but couldnt get this picture. Thank you.

Seems odd . Maybe it was found in the past 6 years , but I doubt there is a sphinx at Gobleki Tepe . Human bodies with animal heads are common enough in prehistoric art but animal bodies with human heads are ,afaik unknown from that  period. Klaus Schmidt has had little enough translated but he did mention this in a paper from 2004.  

George

Completly agree, it is this rareness which aroused my interest.

And what do you think about Vecihi Ozkaya's words, which is mentioned above?

[Spacelancer]

 Pete G, on 22 January 2010 - 03:12, said:

Andy has written to the director of the Göbekli Tepe digs for you asking about the sphinx stone.
I will let you know his reply when he gets it,
Pete

Dear Pete,

Are there any news from the Gobekli Tepe or a friend of yours?

[tiompan]

 Spacelancer, on 13 April 2010 - 10:02, said:

 tiompan, on 11 March 2010 - 17:23, said:

 Spacelancer, on 21 January 2010 - 17:35, said:

Hi everyone, could someone show me the photo of the so-called Göbekli Tepe's sphinx? I tried very hard but couldnt get this picture. Thank you.

Seems odd . Maybe it was found in the past 6 years , but I doubt there is a sphinx at Gobleki Tepe . Human bodies with animal heads are common enough in prehistoric art but animal bodies with human heads are ,afaik unknown from that  period. Klaus Schmidt has had little enough translated but he did mention this in a paper from 2004.  

George

Completly agree, it is this rareness which aroused my interest.

And what do you think about Vecihi Ozkaya's words, which is mentioned above?

This post dates the gruniad interview and there is no mention of it .??
http://antiquity.ac....rojgall/ozkaya/


George