The tattoo of a rectilinear swastika on the, (left, and eastward if she faced south), brow of a girl in the Sudan/Sahel thread called to mind the curvilinear swastika of a stone on Ilkley Moor
Worth noting in that context, the scarp the Swastika Stone is set above runs very close to east-west, perhaps especially at the stone's location, to judge by the course of the trail . This may have been an intentional decision of people of the time , as it seems to have been a direction of some (spiritual) importance . Also, as )this( image shows, this form of swastika, (less the extension to one arm), can be tiled to cover a plane ; something which may also have been known and significant to them
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Posted 14 February 2010 - 22:58
Anew,
Where hast thou been since I saw thee?
Your on My home stopping ground there t'old flower.
The most honoured paulus/brigantia /Paul is possibly the best to comment on that carving, but as I wander about without my hat on(Ba't'at)and simply report as I detect, I,ll stick me two pence in as well.
N,S,E,W but not compass such, and not at every point the same alignment, but at that point it corresponds to larger scale such alignments out in the heavens.
The majority will look with their eyes, and imho be blinded by the light, I don't care if it's day or night, clear or cloudy skies.
Basically a series of cup marks surrounded by a curving incised trench.
IMHO,
the cups are to pinpoint local detectable points that are central focus points of stunning geometry about them, the incised trench is to show the interferance pattern that the series of ponts create locally about themselves.
the pattern is of the flows, the dragons, the serpents that form all things in creation.
At such specific places all around the globe these geometries will repeat in similer fashion, and at such places, an altar spot( alter native) will be found where connection can be achieved across alternative realms and dimensions, the most powerfull times for such connections will be around the solstice and equinox times, but not simply visual as to when such as the sun pops over almsclife crag at equinox time, but when the flows at that spot , the dragons, the serpents react, then access into dreamtime will be available, when specific frequencies engulf that spot and cause the release of DMT in sensitive enough people stood there, then the realms of N,S,E,W merge and allow an alternative glimpse of them, much like as a dream, a dreamtime?
I have stood on such spots at such timings, and it sure is dreamy.
If I then place myself as whoever carved this design, and ponder why, I consider it would have been to mark the spot, to reveal to those less sensitive, less able to sense the spot where it is, like a church building does?//
Kevin
Where hast thou been since I saw thee?
Your on My home stopping ground there t'old flower.
The most honoured paulus/brigantia /Paul is possibly the best to comment on that carving, but as I wander about without my hat on(Ba't'at)and simply report as I detect, I,ll stick me two pence in as well.
N,S,E,W but not compass such, and not at every point the same alignment, but at that point it corresponds to larger scale such alignments out in the heavens.
The majority will look with their eyes, and imho be blinded by the light, I don't care if it's day or night, clear or cloudy skies.
Basically a series of cup marks surrounded by a curving incised trench.
IMHO,
the cups are to pinpoint local detectable points that are central focus points of stunning geometry about them, the incised trench is to show the interferance pattern that the series of ponts create locally about themselves.
the pattern is of the flows, the dragons, the serpents that form all things in creation.
At such specific places all around the globe these geometries will repeat in similer fashion, and at such places, an altar spot( alter native) will be found where connection can be achieved across alternative realms and dimensions, the most powerfull times for such connections will be around the solstice and equinox times, but not simply visual as to when such as the sun pops over almsclife crag at equinox time, but when the flows at that spot , the dragons, the serpents react, then access into dreamtime will be available, when specific frequencies engulf that spot and cause the release of DMT in sensitive enough people stood there, then the realms of N,S,E,W merge and allow an alternative glimpse of them, much like as a dream, a dreamtime?
I have stood on such spots at such timings, and it sure is dreamy.
If I then place myself as whoever carved this design, and ponder why, I consider it would have been to mark the spot, to reveal to those less sensitive, less able to sense the spot where it is, like a church building does?//
Kevin
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kevin.b, on 14 February 2010 - 22:58, said:
Anew,
Where hast thou been since I saw thee?
Your on My home stopping ground there t'old flower.
The most honoured paulus/brigantia /Paul is possibly the best to comment on that carving, but as I wander about without my hat on(Ba't'at)and simply report as I detect, I,ll stick me two pence in as well.
N,S,E,W but not compass such, and not at every point the same alignment, but at that point it corresponds to larger scale such alignments out in the heavens.
The majority will look with their eyes, and imho be blinded by the light, I don't care if it's day or night, clear or cloudy skies.
Basically a series of cup marks surrounded by a curving incised trench.
IMHO,
the cups are to pinpoint local detectable points that are central focus points of stunning geometry about them, the incised trench is to show the interferance pattern that the series of ponts create locally about themselves.
the pattern is of the flows, the dragons, the serpents that form all things in creation.
At such specific places all around the globe these geometries will repeat in similer fashion, and at such places, an altar spot( alter native) will be found where connection can be achieved across alternative realms and dimensions, the most powerfull times for such connections will be around the solstice and equinox times, but not simply visual as to when such as the sun pops over almsclife crag at equinox time, but when the flows at that spot , the dragons, the serpents react, then access into dreamtime will be available, when specific frequencies engulf that spot and cause the release of DMT in sensitive enough people stood there, then the realms of N,S,E,W merge and allow an alternative glimpse of them, much like as a dream, a dreamtime?
I have stood on such spots at such timings, and it sure is dreamy.
If I then place myself as whoever carved this design, and ponder why, I consider it would have been to mark the spot, to reveal to those less sensitive, less able to sense the spot where it is, like a church building does?//
Kevin
Where hast thou been since I saw thee?
Your on My home stopping ground there t'old flower.
The most honoured paulus/brigantia /Paul is possibly the best to comment on that carving, but as I wander about without my hat on(Ba't'at)and simply report as I detect, I,ll stick me two pence in as well.
N,S,E,W but not compass such, and not at every point the same alignment, but at that point it corresponds to larger scale such alignments out in the heavens.
The majority will look with their eyes, and imho be blinded by the light, I don't care if it's day or night, clear or cloudy skies.
Basically a series of cup marks surrounded by a curving incised trench.
IMHO,
the cups are to pinpoint local detectable points that are central focus points of stunning geometry about them, the incised trench is to show the interferance pattern that the series of ponts create locally about themselves.
the pattern is of the flows, the dragons, the serpents that form all things in creation.
At such specific places all around the globe these geometries will repeat in similer fashion, and at such places, an altar spot( alter native) will be found where connection can be achieved across alternative realms and dimensions, the most powerfull times for such connections will be around the solstice and equinox times, but not simply visual as to when such as the sun pops over almsclife crag at equinox time, but when the flows at that spot , the dragons, the serpents react, then access into dreamtime will be available, when specific frequencies engulf that spot and cause the release of DMT in sensitive enough people stood there, then the realms of N,S,E,W merge and allow an alternative glimpse of them, much like as a dream, a dreamtime?
I have stood on such spots at such timings, and it sure is dreamy.
If I then place myself as whoever carved this design, and ponder why, I consider it would have been to mark the spot, to reveal to those less sensitive, less able to sense the spot where it is, like a church building does?//
Kevin
Good post
I like in particular the way the compass bearings can be perceived as, (or the spiritual presence of these may become), specific to a spot ; then merge, allowing access to dreamtime and alternative realities . This sounds very shamanistic, and i (and others) see reason to believe these people had a transcendental religion, as previously discussed . The idea of the carving as an interference pattern created by the interaction of the cupmarks is food for thought . As they could touch neither sun nor the moon, might they have felt these were manifestations of spirits, Gods, or transcendental energies in/on/about the earth?
From my own limited experience, i suggest those cupmarks within the swastika embodied, marked, or were felt to possess an above, skyward essence, (loosely: 'energy') ; and that those cupmarks outside the swastika embodied, marked, or were felt to possess a below, earthward one . Taken together, their world could have been considered in balance, (as the carving's position on a near East-West line implies) . The swastika form itself may have represented their sun, or moon ~ rolling, running or flying across the sky . If these spots are taken to be living things, the last, in the as-though-pregnant, question-mark-shaped extension of one of the sun's, (moon's), rays, could be considered a new life ~ if a baby, one whose 'polarity' within the world was as yet unfixed . Their belief may have been that a heavenly body would would deliver the spirit, rather like a stork
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Anew,
It is a pleasure batting ideas about with thee, on't moor.
I feel everyone can appreciate the relevance of east/west, and that the actual direction of such varies as the planet moves through it's yearly cyclic movement?
IMHO,
The cyclic meanderings are not caused by the mass of the planet, it is the mass of the planet responding to external larger cyclic influences.
And as in any cyclic PERIODIC series of events there will be variations in these cycles, and though it may seem a bizzare connection I recommend googling about fibonacci variations in the stock markets.
The fibonacci sequence is not a repeating system as is adding with tens, it is a rythmic system.
The self same is encoded into galatic periods and universal periods, and fertility will be part of this self same symbiotic ebb and rise .
The fertility is what I sense at the very heart of ancient peoples reasoning and methology.
At the very basic of all of this is a duality, and a balance required of both sides of that duality to achieve fertility, to produce and sustain creation.
If You try and view from the perspective of how they possibly felt and incorperated this into their lives, and always keep in mind that the balanced condition that has existed in the past few hundred years may not have existed at all milleniums ago.
Then the E/W and N/S situation can be better comprended , there are detectable opposites roughly operating in these two orientations closely followed by the 45 degrees orientations in between them, there just is.
Now just suppose that in whatever period of time when this swastika was carved was a period time......... litterally such a time when conception was impossible, then the positions of relatively stronger flows relative to these orientations will have been far more important, maybe even to where a house would be positioned to encompass such a spot, where the female in particuler was positioned to absorb as much of a balance as possible.
Next to nothing of any of this thinking is current, but I assure You,
The times they are a changin.
kevin
It is a pleasure batting ideas about with thee, on't moor.
I feel everyone can appreciate the relevance of east/west, and that the actual direction of such varies as the planet moves through it's yearly cyclic movement?
IMHO,
The cyclic meanderings are not caused by the mass of the planet, it is the mass of the planet responding to external larger cyclic influences.
And as in any cyclic PERIODIC series of events there will be variations in these cycles, and though it may seem a bizzare connection I recommend googling about fibonacci variations in the stock markets.
The fibonacci sequence is not a repeating system as is adding with tens, it is a rythmic system.
The self same is encoded into galatic periods and universal periods, and fertility will be part of this self same symbiotic ebb and rise .
The fertility is what I sense at the very heart of ancient peoples reasoning and methology.
At the very basic of all of this is a duality, and a balance required of both sides of that duality to achieve fertility, to produce and sustain creation.
If You try and view from the perspective of how they possibly felt and incorperated this into their lives, and always keep in mind that the balanced condition that has existed in the past few hundred years may not have existed at all milleniums ago.
Then the E/W and N/S situation can be better comprended , there are detectable opposites roughly operating in these two orientations closely followed by the 45 degrees orientations in between them, there just is.
Now just suppose that in whatever period of time when this swastika was carved was a period time......... litterally such a time when conception was impossible, then the positions of relatively stronger flows relative to these orientations will have been far more important, maybe even to where a house would be positioned to encompass such a spot, where the female in particuler was positioned to absorb as much of a balance as possible.
Next to nothing of any of this thinking is current, but I assure You,
The times they are a changin.
kevin
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Cycles and periodicity ~ with variation ~ and
~ and, that physical objects and orientations (or their perception) may be mutable during the shamanistic experience . I'd like to think so, even today ; and the prehistoric record can be interpreted that they saw it this way
Wikipedia's page on the )Swastika Stone( mentions another nearly identical carving in the )Val Camonica(, Italy, (a part of the Po River watershed) . It is one of a class of carvings now called a )Camunian Rose( as they often resemble flowers
The implication, to me, is that the connection between Italy ~ in particular the Po watershed, though there are many standing stones to the south of this ~ and the British Isles went beyond that of trade route and commodity-stone export . Weight could be given to the possibility of a common or overlapping cultural heritage ~ including (that possibility of) religious symbolism in (or attached to) artifacts such as )jade axes(
Cycles and periodicity ~ with variation ~ and
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"The fertility is what I sense at the very heart of ancient peoples reasoning and methology.
At the very basic of all of this is a duality, and a balance required of both sides of that duality to achieve fertility, to produce and sustain creation."
At the very basic of all of this is a duality, and a balance required of both sides of that duality to achieve fertility, to produce and sustain creation."
Wikipedia's page on the )Swastika Stone( mentions another nearly identical carving in the )Val Camonica(, Italy, (a part of the Po River watershed) . It is one of a class of carvings now called a )Camunian Rose( as they often resemble flowers
[ This may have been part of the meaning, or the manifestation ; but i note that )Henbane( and )Mandrake(, which though toxic were or may have been used by shamans, have five petaled flowers ~ and that in mandrake the principal interest is/was the (bifurcating) root . It may be worth considering that a four-branched mandrake root was considered exceptionally powerful for a potion ~ and that the flower-carving's apparent stem might have represented a string to pull it from the ground ; (there are/were superstitions involved in doing so) ]
The )coordinates( given for the Val Camonican )swastika carving( place it on a north-south running slope above a southward running stretch of the river in the valley below ; and the )park guide( notes that the stone, as can be seen, is veined with (white) quartzite, which could have held additional symbolism . As at Ilkley Moor : A cardinally, (or near-so), oriented land feature was chosen for the carvingThe implication, to me, is that the connection between Italy ~ in particular the Po watershed, though there are many standing stones to the south of this ~ and the British Isles went beyond that of trade route and commodity-stone export . Weight could be given to the possibility of a common or overlapping cultural heritage ~ including (that possibility of) religious symbolism in (or attached to) artifacts such as )jade axes(
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Anew,
Brilliant linking across locations.
location,location, location, in a fractal matrix.
A cross, a swastika, a polygon.
Here's a cross with a polygon base.
http://en.wikipedia....rd_War_Memorial
On top is St George slaying the dragon, and dragons have a tail.
Heres a polygon with a tail,
http://www.geulogy.c...l-surfside.html
A tail resembling a lightning flash, and is St George EARTHING the dragon?????
To draw a cross You have two lines at ninty degrees, to draw a swastika You need more lines at ninty degrees, if You then rotate the swastika many times and overlap them, You will have a polygon.
All from a single point extended into a line.
And the dragon loves limestone, and the flint appears in limestone, in circles, in polygons.
If You desired flint above all else and were hunter supreme, I bet You would develop senses to "sniff"out???
Location, location, location.
Do You ken john peel???
http://www.crystalin...m/swastika.html
Kevin
Brilliant linking across locations.
location,location, location, in a fractal matrix.
A cross, a swastika, a polygon.
Here's a cross with a polygon base.
http://en.wikipedia....rd_War_Memorial
On top is St George slaying the dragon, and dragons have a tail.
Heres a polygon with a tail,
http://www.geulogy.c...l-surfside.html
A tail resembling a lightning flash, and is St George EARTHING the dragon?????
To draw a cross You have two lines at ninty degrees, to draw a swastika You need more lines at ninty degrees, if You then rotate the swastika many times and overlap them, You will have a polygon.
All from a single point extended into a line.
And the dragon loves limestone, and the flint appears in limestone, in circles, in polygons.
If You desired flint above all else and were hunter supreme, I bet You would develop senses to "sniff"out???
Location, location, location.
Do You ken john peel???
http://www.crystalin...m/swastika.html
Kevin
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Anew,
Just a few pictures of locations more over Your neck of the woods,
http://ipl.org/div/pottery/image39.htm
http://www.ipl.org/d...ry/image_iv.htm
And I love this one,
"Path of the spirit"
http://www.ipl.org/d...ery/image36.htm
Kevin
Just a few pictures of locations more over Your neck of the woods,
http://ipl.org/div/pottery/image39.htm
http://www.ipl.org/d...ry/image_iv.htm
And I love this one,
"Path of the spirit"
http://www.ipl.org/d...ery/image36.htm
Kevin
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kevin.b, on 15 February 2010 - 22:29, said:
Anew,
Just a few pictures of locations more over Your neck of the woods,
http://ipl.org/div/pottery/image39.htm
http://www.ipl.org/d...ry/image_iv.htm
And I love this one,
"Path of the spirit"
http://www.ipl.org/d...ery/image36.htm
Kevin
Just a few pictures of locations more over Your neck of the woods,
http://ipl.org/div/pottery/image39.htm
http://www.ipl.org/d...ry/image_iv.htm
And I love this one,
"Path of the spirit"
http://www.ipl.org/d...ery/image36.htm
Kevin
These people practice/practiced transcendentalism . So commonalities may be particularly instructive
A swastika-form as rain from the four cardinal directions... (offset with a 4 petaled 'flower')
The path of the spirit, that's a good one... The Sudan/Sahel thread has links to photos of women having scarification running from the navel to below the breasts ~ might this also be a 'path of the spirit', I don't know . But if it is, it may offer a context for close-set double rows leading from a tumulus
Image36 also has a radial design which reminds me of )this( petroglyph from Italy (near the swastika) ~ which in turn reminds me of the radial strings Merriwether found within Silbury Hill ; the pie-sliced colored disks sometimes worn by tribal African women ; and the radial matrices you perceive
Abundant use of spirals, (often in conjunction with the cardinals) ~ to my mind like the furling or unfurling of a direction, a reality/perception/event, or of (a life)/(an experience) ; though it may also/instead have trance/meditative/transcendental relevance
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Anew,
"Discs"
I have been tracing jade discs called Bi, they are stunning, and from way back.
This one is fabulously covered in spirals,
http://www.benjansse...de-Disc-Bi.html
http://www.metmuseum...d=02®ion-eac
If as I suspect this material Phi related refractive interactions with the aether are as close as i think they are, then the correct tone spoken through that hole may cut through dimensions, as they will have wanted to do at death, hence they are all found placed on corpses.
I want to dowse these, I will keep My eyes peeled for auctions containing jade objects, You get to handle them that way.
kevin
"Discs"
I have been tracing jade discs called Bi, they are stunning, and from way back.
This one is fabulously covered in spirals,
http://www.benjansse...de-Disc-Bi.html
http://www.metmuseum...d=02®ion-eac
If as I suspect this material Phi related refractive interactions with the aether are as close as i think they are, then the correct tone spoken through that hole may cut through dimensions, as they will have wanted to do at death, hence they are all found placed on corpses.
I want to dowse these, I will keep My eyes peeled for auctions containing jade objects, You get to handle them that way.
kevin
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 17:28
Hi folks
Just a small suggestion here. While it has for many years been suggested that the swastika is a sun emblem, what is there about the swastika that represents the sun? It appears to me that this is more likely to be an emblem that represents the four winds. If we take a simple cross orientated to the cardinal points and simply bend the tips to indicate a wind then we have an easily understandable illustration. Of course this can then be elaborated to suit the ideas of the artist and as with the marks on beakers a particular style may become fashionable. With the wind scenario however, we would have a picture that is applicable across the globe and easily understood by all.
I have no knowledge of the source of the idea of it being a solar symbol even though the idea appears to be ancient.
This makes no difference to the ongoing debate but merely is a point in passing that possibly is worth further discussion.
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harry siverstsen,
I have looked carefully at mahjong due to four winds, four faces, and many other numbers I believe are encoded in mahjong, and the splicing of bone and bamboo is very revealing to Myself as a dowser.
The four winds are what is referenced, but not perhaps winds of atmosphere.
Kevin
I have looked carefully at mahjong due to four winds, four faces, and many other numbers I believe are encoded in mahjong, and the splicing of bone and bamboo is very revealing to Myself as a dowser.
The four winds are what is referenced, but not perhaps winds of atmosphere.
Kevin
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kevin.b, on 16 February 2010 - 00:01, said:
Anew,
"Discs"
I have been tracing jade discs called Bi, they are stunning, and from way back.
This one is fabulously covered in spirals,
http://www.benjansse...de-Disc-Bi.html
http://www.metmuseum...d=02®ion-eac
If as I suspect this material Phi related refractive interactions with the aether are as close as i think they are, then the correct tone spoken through that hole may cut through dimensions, as they will have wanted to do at death, hence they are all found placed on corpses.
I want to dowse these, I will keep My eyes peeled for auctions containing jade objects, You get to handle them that way.
kevin
"Discs"
I have been tracing jade discs called Bi, they are stunning, and from way back.
This one is fabulously covered in spirals,
http://www.benjansse...de-Disc-Bi.html
http://www.metmuseum...d=02®ion-eac
If as I suspect this material Phi related refractive interactions with the aether are as close as i think they are, then the correct tone spoken through that hole may cut through dimensions, as they will have wanted to do at death, hence they are all found placed on corpses.
I want to dowse these, I will keep My eyes peeled for auctions containing jade objects, You get to handle them that way.
kevin
harry sivertsen, on 16 February 2010 - 17:28, said:
Hi folks
Just a small suggestion here. While it has for many years been suggested that the swastika is a sun emblem, what is there about the swastika that represents the sun? It appears to me that this is more likely to be an emblem that represents the four winds. If we take a simple cross orientated to the cardinal points and simply bend the tips to indicate a wind then we have an easily understandable illustration. Of course this can then be elaborated to suit the ideas of the artist and as with the marks on beakers a particular style may become fashionable. With the wind scenario however, we would have a picture that is applicable across the globe and easily understood by all.
I have no knowledge of the source of the idea of it being a solar symbol even though the idea appears to be ancient.
This makes no difference to the ongoing debate but merely is a point in passing that possibly is worth further discussion.
The connection with the sun may be that it both shines, (the radial lines or portion of the curve), and rolls/runs/flies across the sky ~ with its 4 cardinal directions . Your interpretation is reasonable to me, and may in many cases be true: Kevin's earlier )link( to a Pueblo storage pot, (a good place for a design having charm of bounty in an arid land), shows rain from the four cardinal points . Here the radial portions would have been seen as winds, within the context . But regarding a universal meaning for this shape, in its many forms: I don't think one can be applied
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Anew,
The portal holes especially those Russian ones are low down, which I have noted before.
I find flows of stuff(spirits?) at differing levels, the lowest is from surface to a maximum of 30 inchs up and this varies daily and especially relative to the moon.
I strongly suspect the hole would have had quartz stone plugging it, and that this would have litterally glowed when the rayleigh type wave that focus into a point turn around to emitt from the point as the moon glides along especially at perigree(closest)
the quartz imho will stress at such times and produce photons.
The hole will have been harmonically calibrated to match the chambers resonance.
The people, especially the young fertile ones will have stood directly in line with this outside the dolmen when the spirits of the deceased flowed outwards.
Litterally daily, but more pronounced twice a month, and even more pronounced at solstice and equinox times these flows stop and then reverse, the daily one is minor and occurs morning and evening( the suns field)
The solstice ones last a couple of hours.
IMHO the hilltop fires were to say when this was occuring as the field flow is like a wave across the land relative to where the sun and moon are.
Solstice occurs during the night, not when the sun pops up, as awesome as it is, it is visual.
The glow of a stressed quartz will have been visible at night.
A change in gravity occurs at the same time, as water suddenly perculates upwards, I think they will have collected such water ( positively charged)
Thus a collective signalling of fires to warn of the approaching reversal, and a time to celebrate the returning spirits?
Ilkley moor will have been a fine bonfire location.
kevin
The portal holes especially those Russian ones are low down, which I have noted before.
I find flows of stuff(spirits?) at differing levels, the lowest is from surface to a maximum of 30 inchs up and this varies daily and especially relative to the moon.
I strongly suspect the hole would have had quartz stone plugging it, and that this would have litterally glowed when the rayleigh type wave that focus into a point turn around to emitt from the point as the moon glides along especially at perigree(closest)
the quartz imho will stress at such times and produce photons.
The hole will have been harmonically calibrated to match the chambers resonance.
The people, especially the young fertile ones will have stood directly in line with this outside the dolmen when the spirits of the deceased flowed outwards.
Litterally daily, but more pronounced twice a month, and even more pronounced at solstice and equinox times these flows stop and then reverse, the daily one is minor and occurs morning and evening( the suns field)
The solstice ones last a couple of hours.
IMHO the hilltop fires were to say when this was occuring as the field flow is like a wave across the land relative to where the sun and moon are.
Solstice occurs during the night, not when the sun pops up, as awesome as it is, it is visual.
The glow of a stressed quartz will have been visible at night.
A change in gravity occurs at the same time, as water suddenly perculates upwards, I think they will have collected such water ( positively charged)
Thus a collective signalling of fires to warn of the approaching reversal, and a time to celebrate the returning spirits?
Ilkley moor will have been a fine bonfire location.
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 20:09
The info on the New Scientist site below may well be associated with the ongoing discussion here. Well worth a look.
http://www.newscient....html?full=true
http://www.newscient....html?full=true
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 21:21
harry sivertsen, on 17 February 2010 - 20:09, said:
The info on the New Scientist site below may well be associated with the ongoing discussion here. Well worth a look.
http://www.newscient....html?full=true
http://www.newscient....html?full=true
That is quite interesting . I mean to read it again
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