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[Maju]

From Pileta de Prehistoria:


Archaeologists have discovered a second henge at Stonehenge, described as the most exciting find there in 50 years.

The circular ditch surrounding a smaller circle of deep pits about a metre (3ft) wide has been unearthed at the world-famous site in Wiltshire.

Archaeologists conducting a multi-million pound study believe timber posts were in the pits.

Project leader Professor Vince Gaffney, from the University of Birmingham, said the discovery was "exceptional".

The new "henge" - which means a circular monument dating to Neolithic and Bronze Ages - is situated about 900m (2,950ft) from the giant stones on Salisbury Plain... Video. BBC news

[kevin.b]

Could anyone please explain why they have described this find as "ceremonial"
on what grounds can that possibly be presumed?
Kevin

[shiny]

....Does anyone know what they mean by saying that "it's aligned with Stonehenge itself"?

[Maju]

Ceremonial should mean nothing but that it has no practical function: it's not a home, a barn nor a fortress. So it's "ceremonial" or "ritual". It could be art for love of art but that's not how these things are usually interpreted.

As for aligned with Stonehenge, I imagine they might mean little, specially at this stage of the research. Two points are always aligned but maybe they have detected something else I'm not aware of.

[kevin.b]

Maju, on 30 July 2010 - 00:03, said:

Ceremonial should mean nothing but that it has no practical function: it's not a home, a barn nor a fortress. So it's "ceremonial" or "ritual". It could be art for love of art but that's not how these things are usually interpreted.

As for aligned with Stonehenge, I imagine they might mean little, specially at this stage of the research. Two points are always aligned but maybe they have detected something else I'm not aware of.

Thank You,
       Could it not equally be practical or machine like?
The use of ceremonial or ritual casts it in the minds of most as religious, and there is NO grounds for that whatsoever, imho.
I suspect the alignments been looked for are with the three sites now in that area , with the bluehenge by the river?

The alignments that imho need looking at will be edge to edge, not central points to central points.
Kevin

[Maju]

I am not sure of what you mean. The Venus of Lespulges is "ritual", the same as the painted pebbles of Mas d'Azil. Instead bone spear points or protoharpoons or needles, or flint scrappers in the same sites are "tools". Are you the guy who dreams that Stonehenge was some sort of wacko mill? I'm not interested in such digressions, because that's simply weird and more unlikely than Yaveh, God and Allah together.

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The alignments that imho need looking at will be edge to edge, not central points to central points

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Yes, I guess so. To claim an alignment that is not trivial it should be inferred that both "astronomical observatories", so to say, are oriented to the same astronomical phenomenon such as the sunrise in some solstice. But these matters are typically controversial, specially when the "observatory" is round. In any case I haven't read any details so far on the possible astronomy associated with this new ceremonial ring.

[tiompan]

kevin.b, on 30 July 2010 - 07:10, said:

Maju, on 30 July 2010 - 00:03, said:

Ceremonial should mean nothing but that it has no practical function: it's not a home, a barn nor a fortress. So it's "ceremonial" or "ritual". It could be art for love of art but that's not how these things are usually interpreted.

As for aligned with Stonehenge, I imagine they might mean little, specially at this stage of the research. Two points are always aligned but maybe they have detected something else I'm not aware of.

Thank You,
       Could it not equally be practical or machine like?
The use of ceremonial or ritual casts it in the minds of most as religious, and there is NO grounds for that whatsoever, imho.
I suspect the alignments been looked for are with the three sites now in that area , with the bluehenge by the river?

The alignments that imho need looking at will be edge to edge, not central points to central points.
Kevin

If you mean edge to edge of each monument that means there will be a great amount of leeway for coming up with potential "alignments " .With the distance from Stonehenge to the putative "new" monument at 900 metres even from the centre of new monumnet  it will give a a possible variation of about 14 degrees making any suggestion a bit of a lottery . I imagine the suggested alignment is the orientation of the "entrances " of the new monument on stonehenge , what ever they may be if it is anything like near where has been suggested it will not provide a solstice alignmenteven with the leeway provided by edge to edge measurements

George

[Lai55]

Could anyone please explain why they have described this find as "ceremonial"
on what grounds can that possibly be presumed?
Thanks,,,


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