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[kevin.b]

Dowsing, part two.
If you can imagine the whole globe surrounded in a similer fashion to magnetism, with these lines, then you can begin to visualise them.
There are stronger lines at  north/south and east/ west bearings, and a further strong line at north east/ south west.
But if you start with the east/west one, we are fortunate, norman churchs are built to this line.
So if you go to your nearest church, you dont have to go in, the centre line, of nine lines , will run down the centre of the church, it will come through both ends of the church dead centre.
If there is a so called preachers cross left in the church yard, usually to the south of the church, this will have a minimum of thirteen lines, at irrational angles passing through it, I guarentee.
It is simpler to start with the line through the church, as it is the strongest on the planet, at the present time, but it has not always been (before the last ice age, or pole shift to be precise, it was eleswhere)
The present church calls this the holy spirit, they may be right?
I consider that it is the creator of all life , on this planet and beyond.
We are made by these lines to devine measure, and so we are the only thing capable of sensing and reporting this plasma.
I must prove , beyond any doubt, that which I have stated, I WILL.
Welding rods of steel or brass, one eigth of an inch thick are best, bent at 90 degrees, six inch by 15 inch long.
Be patient, dont rush, move across the end of the church slowly, dead centre , I guarentee a line, they were built by very clever dowsers, to these lines, they considered were the holy spirit, remember, they may have been correct.
Why do you think they place a coffin at the  centre of the aisle at funerals?
Why do they align east/west?
Why is gold so important in all religions around the globe?
Practise with two rods, and all will be revealed by them.
The lines are from our nearest stars, east/west is the one that keeps us warm.
Thousands of books have been written, about the alignments to these stars, and how the ancient sites are aligned to them, brilliant people have worked out the most stunning complex mathmatical measurements.
When all they needed was two dowsing rods, silly billies.
It is so simple, so easy, that all shout no, well I say yes, sorry.
Kevin

[kevin.b]

Yogro, sorry , I missed you asking about water.
Water is connected to the lines.
In so much as what is travelling along the lines, earths through the water.
Between the lines, above water, spirals form, and the plasma appears to go into the ground.
If you look at many barrows, especially in ireland, they will depict spirals.
At all the barrows I have visited, I have detected these spirals, also at all the norman churchs, spirals.
From the stars, star dust, plasma, the most powerfull one, east/west, the sun, a star.
The lines, straight, form polygons, hardly detectable as not being circles.
From the stars, lines of radio waves, in nines, along which travels plasma.
Earths on this planet through water, in a spiral formation, all life, is to this fibonacchi spiral.
Because this plasma made life, it is attracted to life, and all former life, certain rocks are former life.
The ultimate battery of this plasma energy are crystals, formed by water and depositing what the water is carrying.
The ultimate substance delivered is gold, white powder gold, monatomic gold.
Gold is the ultimate attractor for this plasma energy, hence all religions and their alters are covered in gold.
How I, and other dowsers switch between different signals, is through practise.
How you know which is which, is through experience.
How I am to prove all this , is the big test, but I will.
This forum is the Stones forum, they were to one degree or other all former life.
They all to differing degrees , have the ability to store the plasma.
People have known this, and have manipulated this plasma, made best use of it.
The circles of stones are accumulaters of plasma energy, which has then been directed down chalk causeways, teased along to its ultimate place of entry to the earth, spirals, down through water.
The barrows were this spot, not for burying the dead, just as the churchs are not for burying the dead.
Keep parts of the body there, whilst they go back to the mother earth.
All got mixed up into loads of religions, all of them=plasma, there for all totally free.
Kevin

[mac]

I do have sympathy for the sceptics on ley lines and indeed tried it myself at Arbor Low without result a couple of years ago. The friends i was with at that time had great results and i must admit to thinking that they were influencing their results. However later that same day we went to Doll Tor where i had great results = sceptisism gone.
I would recomend trying it ,all we used were cut up wire coat hangers bent at 90 degrees. If at first nothing happens then try somewhere else this is the only proof you need. What ley lines are i dont pretend to know but they are there.

mac

[kevin.b]

Mac, You are talking sense, if I sound as though I have always been a dowser , able to understand all I detect, I sure have not always been.
The more I am practising , the better I am becoming, I am constantly learning and reappraising my previous findings.
If I had been shown this as a young boy, who knows how good I, or others may have become.
Dowsers are not scary people, all the ones I have met have been really quite withdrawn, it is a humbling experience, to feel those rods moving about in your hands.
Several years ago, that is as far as it would have probably have gone, maybe , I would have met some other dowsers, and we would almost have hidden away, hidden from the constant scoffing of the sceptics.
Well , those days are over, I KNOW my rods move in my hands because of a measurable force, that I can say is to be found everywhere I try and detect it, several differing forces, that I can differentiate between, and the ancient sites that I have visited, are all, built in alignment to these forces that I detect.
By some method or another, I am going to prove this, then all the people that care , care deeply about these sites will be able to show how important they are, show that these relics from people who are now just dust, are clues to a way of life, in touch with this planet, and beyond it, I sure will get some stick, but never mind.
Keep trying with the rods, balls to those that laugh, WHY do they laugh?, are they afraid?, afraid of what?
I am not afraid, not afraid of those who laugh, they do not laugh when they feel those rods move in their hands, in an instant they stop laughing, and ask," what is moving them"  Star dust, plasma.
Kevin.

[kevin.b]

Moles, ever been to a place called Stone Henge, and noticed these little chaps, chapesses ?
All that flint, and still they dig the place up, strange Eh?
Oh no it isnt, they are the ultimate dowsers, they are brilliant, able to follow the lines, until they come to the spirals, and then to fibannachi perfection they follow the spirals, living on the free to all energy, not like stupid arrogant man.
He has to burn all the stored up energy, when all the time it is free all around him, stupid arrogant man.
Scoff all you like, but there under your noses are moles, much cleverer than you.
Simple little ME can see them , why cant you, have you never looked, never felt what is at the ancient sites, PLASMA, in abundance, time to start looking stupid.
Kevin

[stonecarver]

Kevin... if I try these coathanger dowsing things, what will happen when I walk across a stone circle???

I never dowsed, and I don't see how two pieces of coathanger are relevant to an ancient monument... explain please...

[Vlad]

It`s simple, stonecarver. Your muscles are supposed to react to some signals from the environment. Their contraction is said to give the movements of several kinds of indicators, you can hold in your hands - like hazeltree divining rods, L- rods, pendulum, etc.  
Trouble is, Kevin is so excited with his role as a Till Eulenspiegel saying to us "you know nothing", that he digs a grave for the whole problem of tracking real psychical interplay between humans and their environment. And it`s just now, when we should need a serious exploration of those problems.
Kevin; go and join the English Dowsing Society rather than building seemingly serious theories of everything on your newly discovered emotional life.

[kevin.b]

Stonecarver, Where do you live, I will show you mine , if you show me yours.
Before you panic and think I am some sort of pervert, it is best if you are shown how to dowse, and I would gladly show you, you could then show me some of the expertise you have in your chosen route.
You will never appreciate the relevance of dowsing unless you master it, I believe all can do this if they try.
I have found that anyone who has used the hunting ability , we have , finds it easier to learn, ie:- fishing, or similer.
There are several differing signals, as such, and until you can differentiate between them, quite often the rods make no sense.
I for some reason can switch at will around this set of signals, and can also ask the strangest things of the rods.
By carefully recording the alignments that the rods take, I can show you how and why the stones were positioned with ultimate precision, to make use of what is freely available.
Kevin

[kevin.b]

Vlad, NO.
Your description of muscle movements etc, I see quite often used to explain dowsing, I don't agree, I have watched and felt the rods moving quite a bit, so I feel I can be fairly sure .
I believe we have a FIELD around our bodies, if we tune this field into the main one that is all around this planet, then through the devices held in your hands they align, and cause an alteration in the gravity FIELD around yourself.
I consider that the finest exponent of this alteration of gravity is the tree, and those through the ages that have understood this have revered the tree for this reason, it forms a field around itself, it has the north pole at the top of the tree and so the sap raises.
It can alter this field strength and lowers it in winter which allows the products of its growth to then fall back into the earth.
I have come to fully appreciate this through my dowsing, and have the ultimate respect for trees, especially the yews and oaks.
They do this by being in the right position, in line with two crossing flows of plasma, with the lines that this flows upon forming a perfect 90 degree cross in the centre of the trunk of the tree.
http://www.gravitycontrol.org ,read the idealism blogs of david barclay, I have a high regard for the genius of this man, and communicate with him often.
I have a complete understanding of the FIELD around this planet, I do not recognise it as a god, of any name, I have no need of any god, of any description.
I am totally sound within myself, and totally sure of that which I detect, many have been able to detect that which I do, and have turned it into all the mumbo jumbo that masquerades as religions.
They then use this as justification to carry out murder, in the pursuet of greed and power.
If we re-learn to understand what we are, and how we are made etc, and how we can manipulate what is coming in free to all, then we may once again become one, with this planet.
So , Vlad, the answer is NO, I will not be derailed from finding the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and if there is some god conducting all of this, then I will look forward to shaking HER/HIS/ITS hand or whatever bit I will greet it by.
Kevin

[Vlad]

We all live in our psychical labyrinths, Kevin, and some of them happen to coincide with the physical objects. It`s possible to work out many different theories on the basis of those rod movements, that you watch "like a hawk". On the background of my remarks regarding actualization of archetypes, I can propose that what you are dowsing in a "sacred" (once tabooized)environment is maybe your primaeval impulse to run away, as you are not the initiated caretaker of this sacred place.
All other detailed visions of you, Kevin, are products of your heated mind interpretations and, maybe - wishful thinking. And there`s a large literature to take inspiration from for such detailed visions. You know, it`s the instinct to join a group.
Well, you can really do this and join a dowser organization, which can help you in refining your techniques and argumentation, so that you can be taken more seriously by your environment. Agree to become a sort of experimentation bunny and in this way your emotional sensibility will be used and your benefit shall be better control of imagination (!?) Old dowsers really know that what you dowse in the beginning are your own archetypes, awakened at a place or by an image.
Oh; and try to learn using words "as if", "suppose that" or "it seems to me", Kevin. Otherwise, it looks like you are fishing for a group of "apostles", with which to roam the land!? No offence; I know these symptoms from my own autopsy.

[stonecarver]

Hi Kevin,

well I tried the link you posted, and I have to say that given the fact the author accepts alien life forms and flying saucers are visiting us... and area 51 (which is simply a secret weapons/aircraft design establishment) is where there are 'captured' flying saucers.... I think we can say that the site you have been learning from is a form of fiction based loosely around pseudo science which to be quite frank, is not exactly original and totally unscientific. In fact, it's a load of rubbish. The sort of stuff that used to appear in kids comics in the 1950's, tarted up because it's on the net.

If That's what you think is a credible data source, you are having the wool pulled over your eyes (and That's Me being polite!).

I can say, in all certainty, that Stonehenge has no mysterious plasma fields running through it, in fact, my ancestors built it, and the pre-Celtic name they had for it at the time was whemblee-staydeeum, where the first ever recorded game of football took place (I should know, my great-great-great-29th-great-squared grandmother travelled back to the future after being taken hostage by an Alien life-form from one of the planets orbiting Orion, and told me so).

Next!    

[kevin.b]

Vlad, on the link to gravity control above, I meant to add, if you look down the right hand side you will find tree power. you may need to read it a couple of times because of the way David describes things, is in a tachnical way.
Kevin

[stonecarver]

Technical my arm-pit! It's a load of pseudo-science of the highest order which can't be verified by any means because it's a load of absolute tripe!

The energy running through the trees, as we all know, is simply their bodily fluids and respiratory system - they're Ents, didn't you know!    

[stonecarver]

But wait - I'm off to chop up me coat-hangers to have a go on my neighbours shrubbery. I'll let you know the results of my experiment - after all, they might be planted on a Neolithic burial ground oriented on the Planet Tihsllub from the Andromeda system...

[stonecarver]

Seriously though (please excuse my irreverant tone and obvious mirth/delight), I really don't believe there is any truth in the fact that there is hidden energy which makes Ley Lines. I just read-up on them. Alfred Watkins made a fortune from writing a book about them (he invented them)... see:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_Lines

In point of fact, you can join the dots on any series of maps and get similar patterns between kebab shops, Police stations, telephone boxes or even the vending machines which print lottery tickets (see the article)...

Sheesh... and there I was, believing this stuff - til I read Wikipedia's reference.

In fact, the micro-vibartions you notice in the dowsing rods could be caused by the imperceptible but very real flow of liquids around the body, pumped by that incredible device, the human heart?