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[123hopp]

Hi, kevin b. and Peregrine

I`m new to this forum but not to the topic.
Well, those quadrants come out quite naturally from the fact that one starts drawing a conventional labyrinth from a cross core shape.
And then, Peregrine formed this thesis about two mirroring or reciprocating parts of a straightened track in a labyrinth. In my Swedish practice, I`ve worked out for myself a method of following how labyrinthian structures are located with respect to those "streams of plasma" in the environment. I use a scale based on the concept of chakras ("Man is measure of everything"). In this way I`ve come to the conclusion - which is not new for some of you on this forum, I hope - that labyrinths were located in such a way as to straddle a major contact line between a plasma path of the "earth chakra" quality and the "white chakra" quality. Thus, such winding path of a labyrinth
could be used for many different purposes; and in a different way - depending on if you are a woman or a man. When I`d  once tested a modern structure of this type, nearby my appartment at a suburb of Stockholm, it came out that walking clockwise was like sacrificing part of your life energy back to the local source of it, while walking anticlockwise was like building up your life energy back. (It could be also described in terms of mean personal aura frequencies)  
Well, it seems, a small local labyrinth - if properly located with respect to those plasma streams of kevin b. (earth aura!?), could be used
for cleansing your personal aura out of "alien imprints" you`ve gathered upon you during a day in a busy city!? I wonder, what do you think about it!?
123hopp

[123hopp]

P.S.

One afterthought. Some years ago, when I analyzed meditation paths at some medieval monasteries in Central Europe, I did come to a conclusion that they are equivalent - in their effect on personal aura - to some possible more compact labyrinths. Looking at this angle, I agree with Peregrine that straightening of the labyrinthian path is meaningful. Regards
123hopp

[Peregrine]

Hi 123hopp,

Thanks for your contributions.

I do agree with you that the winding path of the Cretan labyrinth can be used for many different purposes and in many different ways.
Many people who walk the labyrinth, do this for different reasons but most agree that, while walking towards the centre, the outside world seems to fall away from them and they become really focussed to the inner self.
Upon walking out of the labyrinth towards the exit (day-to-day reality), most say they feel stronger in accepting this reality because they are now completely at peace with the self.

The strange thing here is, i.m.o., that the point of reversal as experienced by most labyrinth walkers is the centre of the circular Cretan labyrinth.
The straightened path of the labyrinth however indicates that the true point of reversal lays halfway between the entrance and the centre of the circular labyrinth and is located exactly between this centre and the upper rim.
This gives the Cretan labyrinth an extra quality, that of the inner and outer.
With this in mind, the walking of the labyrinthine path may give additional meaning for many, i.m.o..

If you are interested I can send you a diagram, just contact me by E-mail.

All best,  Peregrine.  

[123hopp]

Thank you; Peregrine for your proposal. I`ve sent an e-mail to you with my thanks. Well; untill now, I was only pondering over such points
in one of nearby old labyrinths (Rösa ring at the lake of Mälaren, which seemed to me having the qualities of "tao", yin and yang. At the end I`ve imagined myself that in those points a priest, a bride and a bridegroom were to stand at a wedding ceremony. So, maybe this early vision in my dowsing life could really mean becoming " whole", when moving in a labyrinth. Your diagram, Peregrine, will be welcomed; maybe it`ll help to refresh my former experience and see it at a new angle.
Thanks
123hopp

[Peregrine]

Hi 123hopp,

I haven't received your mail and I haven't been able to send you the diagram.
There must be something wrong with the mail-server of my provider. (as usual).
I will keep on trying, but it may take a while.
Sorry for this.

All best, Peregrine.

[kevin.b]

Perigrine, bonjour mon ami, cava ?
All we see now at stone circles are the battered remains of the stones.
Imagine inside these a labyrinth, formed by two  circles forming a vesica pisces ?
then by following these you could arrive at the point of creation, I can.
It is stunning to follow this inward / outward trackway, almost hypnotic.
I am fortunate, blessed, I can find these places out in open fields, and so on my own, I can walk in following the line, walking the line, quite literally, I then stand with my arms outstretched and my legs apart ( no jokes please ), and soak in the plasma.
I do what I have learn't from the tree, the tree of life, they use this plasma to perfection, much cleverer than us.
If you position yourself to perfection ( I can ) you feel uplifted, this is because of the vortex fashion that the plasma enters and leaves these spots, it super compresses into the tiniest of nothing, and at the same time expands back out into space, we are mon ami, radio waves, compressed and compounded into all the elements ( google:-walter russell )
Thats why we respond to music ( thats why they had to get the octaves in cathedrals )
A bien tot, Kevin

[Jimit]

What sort of plasma do you detect Kevin? As this fourth state of matter usually exists at temperatures ranging from several thousands of degrees K to many millions doesn't it tend to melt your dowsing rods?
Jim.
http://www.answers.c....2.381&method=3

[Peregrine]

Hi Jimit,

If this proofs to be the case, this might turn out to be a really HOT topic!    

Best, Peregrine.

[123hopp]

Well, Jimit. In lack of better term, Kevin took to this "plasma" thing. Some time ago I`ve tried (for myself only) to classify those "paths" or "streams" as "pre-thoughts" ( Hartmann lines) and "pre-emotions" (dr Curry lines). Those terms in parentheses are used in Central Europe. Such terminological approaches testify of our uncapability to grasp those things with our minds or other tools. But what about using old Plato concept and start talking again about a "world of ideas", having a nearly-physical meaning for some of us !?

[kevin.b]

Jimit, It is a good thing that you don't believe me, and I appreciate this.
Nobody has any idea how this planet, never mind everything beyond it was formed.
I honestly find two flows of a force , that I recognise as plasma, it spins two ways, I know this by the fact that I can follow a left turning spiral and a right turning spiral , at either side of the lines I follow, these only occur where water is under the line, mainly underground ( I can't yet walk on water )
There are two distinct flows on top of each other going in opposite directions.
At long barrows, one of these lines of spirals is allowed to enter, the lower one ( see diagos sites on here, I forget where crete, maybe ) through a small squre hole at the base of the front central stone, the barrow will have been covered in successive layers of organic and inorganic materials, this was to ensure that this line and its cargo could not escape out, it had to earth via the spirals.
They buried death, into these fabulous constructions, quite literally, and will have kept parts of the deceased (cleaned of flesh ) in them to allow the life force to be taken into the earth.
At a precise moment each month due to the moon altering gravity, this whole system for aprox 7 minutes changes around, and the flow into the earth comes back out, I have stood and detected this personally, they would have seen this as re-birth from the earth they rightly worshipped, then bury the remains elsewhere.
The two positive and negative flows of plasma create all, and then dissolve all, the creator, the destroyer, the grim reaper scything down at a low level, It does I can detect it.
Kevin

[Peregrine]

Hi all,

In order to clarify what I ment by straightening the path through the Cretan labyrinth, I've added a link to this message which gives you the image. (I hope)


lab

Fingers crossed, here goes...


Peregrine.  

[kevin.b]

Perigrine , tres bien , mon ami, tres bien, en balance.
Look for the scales in egypt, they are merely depicting balance.
spinning left, spinning right in balance, male and female, positive and negative, ying and yang.
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarious, where the male dominance will be balanced out by the female.
Watch the Mayan calender mon ami, they knew, the clock is ticking, fast.
Kevin

[123hopp]

OK, Peregrine. You are treating this idealized labyrinth as a kind of a meditation mandala, I suppose. And I mean your explanations in your e-mail to me, too. I wonder though, what`ll happen in the long term, if there`s no connection to higher level outer labyrinths. With the help of your labyrinth diagram you are probably encapsulating yourself within your mind (a series of labyrinths in itself), instead of connecting to the outer Mind!?
Well, Kevin is going strong as usual. But don`t think, Kevin, that we`ll believe all details you supply us with. Anyway, go on dancing in the Wind; good luck. And I`d say : "Mikal, don`t laugh!!"

[Peregrine]

Hi 123hopp,

Yes, I see what you mean.
But I also feel that one may need to know the inner labyrinth(s) before and in order to connect to the outer ones.  

All best,  Peregrine.

[123hopp]

Oh, yes. I see that you know very well how it goes. Microcosm as a tool to explore Macrocosm, etc.!? Well, when we face something, which cannot be dismounted into pieces, and the latter analyzed and given names - what shall we do then!? We can still try to use complex structures and/or processes, known from our personal "labs", as pattern tools to identify and classify fragments of the bigger whole around us!?