Silbury Hill position (View original topic)



Clive

Posted 14 August 2001 - 05:30

Hello to all members:

May I introduce myself as Clive Ross from Toronto, Canada.
Presently I am searching for the exact latitude and longitude measures of Silbury Hill near Avebury, England. It would be greatly appreciated if any individual can assist, or guide me toward a source who may have this information.

True regards.

Clive Ross.
Amitron2001@yahoo.com

...Life is not short....it is eternal.
It is we who have the short pleasure passing through it !!

Paul

Posted 14 August 2001 - 17:16

Hi Clive,

Silbury hill is at latitude 51.428420 and longitude -1.851830. There are loads of sites on the web with information about Silbury, including GPS data (can't remember exactly which site I got it from) just run Avebury or Silbury through a search engine.

Hope this helps,

Paul

Clive

Posted 14 August 2001 - 17:22

Paul:

You are my hero!!!
If only you knew how many sites I visited, but nothing relating to lat and long measures for Silbury Hill.
Thanking you once again
Best regards.

Clive.
Amitron2001@yahoo.com

Hope this helps,

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Clive

Posted 15 August 2001 - 04:40

Paul:
While on the topic of Silbury Hill and the degrees lat and long., I have the following coordinates for Stonehenge. Is it possible for you to confirm if correct or not.
Latitude 51.1825, longitude -1.8201

Thanks for your time and patience.

Best regards.

Clive ross.

Amitron2001@yahoo.com

Paul

Posted 15 August 2001 - 11:25

Hi Clive,

My coordinants for Stonehenge are: lat 51.178381 and long -1.824018

I've also found the weblink where you can get the latitude & longitude data of any neolithic site in their database, it's the Megalithica page found at www.anima.demon.co.uk/search.gps.html

Best Wishes

Paul

Clive

Posted 24 August 2001 - 09:58

Paul:
What else may I say...but thank you once more.
The site you recommended is for members only at a cost of what I am not willing to pay. However, I do have one question.
From the various other references, the location of Stonehenge is on the 51.81-51.82 degree lat, yet you claim it being 51.78381. Are you positive of this measure Paul? It may appear as an irrelevant discrepancy, but it is of most importance to confirm of reject what I believe discovered.
The distance in measure is a difference of only 460 meters, but it must be clarified somehow.
If you can help in any way possible, I would greatly appreciate.
Thanks once more for your efforts.

Regards.
Clive
Amitron2001@yahoo.com

Diego

Posted 24 August 2001 - 17:02

According to our calculations, the coordinates of Stonehenge stone circle are as follows:

Latitude: 51.1810
Longitude: -1.8211

Hope this helps!

Paola & Diego
Stone Pages

Clive

Posted 24 August 2001 - 17:12

Paola & Diego:

Thanks for your input, and may I add the measures you have are most similar to my original.
If these are true then I believe Silbury Hill was constructed at a specific location with respect to Stonehenge. It also indicates an original design date of approximately 330 years after Earth aligned with the north star Thuban (2860 BC.), therefore the structures were designed approximately 2530 BC.
Any one have an idea when these monuments were first erected?

Diego

Posted 25 August 2001 - 09:54

Our sources report the following dates (they are approximate, because are based on radiocarbon measurements) for the monuments you are interested in:

Silbury Hill - c. 2700 BC
Stonehenge (Earth monument) - c. 2950 BC
Stonehenge (Timber monument) - c. 2900 BC
Stonehenge (Stone monument) - c. 2550 BC

Regarding the alignment with the star Thuban (alpha draconis), taking into account its proper motion and the motions of the Earth, that star was nearest to the North Celestial Pole between the years 2800-2799 BC, when it was a little more than 6 minutes of arc from that point.
As a comparison, the Polaris is now more than 7 times farther from the North Celestial Pole than was Thuban in 2800 BC.

Paola & Diego
Stone Pages

Clive

Posted 28 August 2001 - 01:31

Paola & Diego:

What else can I say but THANK YOU !!!
If your statements are true, then you have verified the date given by the designers of Stonehenge and Silbury Hil
…they are perfect!!!!
The builders used the furthest “visible” planets orbiting the Sun and constructed mounds around the Stonehenge site to confirm the year of construction. From planet motion, the year displayed at Stonehenge is 2514 BC (yours 2550 BC).
The Giza pyramids in Egypt incorporate the identical system and refer to 2445 BC. This is confirmed by carbon dating at the site (measuring 2450-2550 BC).
Coupled with Stonehenge is Silbury Hill and it directs us to 336 years “after” Earth aligned with Thuban.
From your measure, Earth’s north pole pointed to Thuban during the year 2800-2799 BC. From star measures, including proper motion, the year should measure 67.94 degrees of Earth’s precessional motion from the year 2000.
Using 25,800 years for one precessional cycle would bring us to 2869 BC, the year when when Thuban was closest to Earth’s north polar direction.
Deducting the 336 years from 2800 BC (your measure) equals 2464 BC, subtracting from 2869 BC (my measure) the result is 2533 BC.
Using both systems, Silbury Hill gives 2533 BC, and Stonehenge 2514 BC, a mere 19 years discrepancy.
The oddity of this site is the placing of the northern mound at Stonehenge. It is 15.85 degrees west of north and offers an illustration in planet motion; at the same moment it also indicates a date 2916 BC. This date does not coincide with any particular event in the astronomical relationship to planets, but it appears to register with your carbon dating measures of 2900-2950 BC.
Putting all of this info together we can “cautiously” assume the mounds and sites in England predate the pyramids at Giza. But why did they begin construction in approximately 2950 BC and complete the project some 400 years later? Could the builders have known that Earth would point to “POLARIS” 5,000 years “after” they started construction, or is this another coincidence?
This also supports my theory of others before us having the ability to measure locations throughout the world with stunning accuracy. If true, then the Stonehenge location was chosen over all other Earth locations intending to direct us to many other ancient sites, the Giza pyramids being one of them.
Paola, could you please confirm the name of your source for the 2800 BC date you provided, I would like to check the accuracy in measure?
Best of the best regards.

Clive Ross
Amitron2001@yahoo.com

Diego

Posted 7 September 2001 - 22:24

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Originally posted by Clive:
Could you please confirm the name of your source for the 2800 BC date you provided, I would like to check the accuracy in measure?


Hello Clive,
We made Thuban's position/epoch measurements using Starry Night Pro, in our opinion one of the best and most accurate astronomical programs currently available.
However, here are other sources:
  • Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Volume Two (page 862) - Robert Burnham Jr. ISBN 0486235688
  • Star Names - Their Lore and Meaning (page 206) - Richard Hinckley Allen ISBN 0486210790
Hope this helps!

Paola & Diego
Stone Pages

Pete G

Posted 17 September 2001 - 22:50

Hang on a minute.
Where does that leave Marlborough Mound (6 miles away from Silbury) which is half the size of Sibury but built the same way and the Marston Mound (12 miles from Silbury) which was only slightly smaller than Silbury before it was totaly destroyed by victorian Archaeologists?
Pete G
Ps Not too sure on your Silbury dates either.